Originally posted by HalitoseYou are attempting to frame this debate through a "perception is reality" argument. What I am trying (and apparently failing) to point out is that this argument only applies to the spiritual, and inherently variable aspect of the discussion.
Most of the arguments you would use to sustain premise 2 could be applied to demolish premise 1. Think about it.
God is many things to many people, and He is nothing to the atheists among us - Perception.
1+1=2 regardless of who you ask - Truth.
-JC
Originally posted by ChurlantAh... so you are arguing that the universal acceptance of a truth-claim validates its authenticity while a truth-claim that does not enjoy universal acceptance must therefore be false?
You are attempting to frame this debate through a "perception is reality" argument. What I am trying (and apparently failing) to point out is that this argument only applies to the spiritual, and inherently variable aspect of the discussion.
God is many things to many people, and He is nothing to the atheists among us - Perception.
1+1=2 regardless of who you ask - Truth.
-JC
Have you tried discussing Quantum Mechanics with a Papua New Guinean tribe? 😀
Originally posted by HalitoseActually, I am arguing that truth does not need universal acceptance (nor will it receive anywhere near) to remain valid. In actuality, religious faith enjoys far wider acceptance than such trivial matters as "Quantum Mechanics"... such simplicity doesn't make it "truth".
Ah... so you are arguing that the universal acceptance of a truth-claim validates its authenticity while a truth-claim that does not enjoy universal acceptance must therefore be false?
Have you tried discussing Quantum Mechanics with a Papua New Guinean tribe? 😀
-JC
Originally posted by ChurlantSo why do you think a truth-claim pertaining to God cannot be valid?
Actually, I am arguing that truth does not need universal acceptance (nor will it receive anywhere near) to remain valid. In actuality, religious faith enjoys far wider acceptance than such trivial matters as "Quantum Mechanics"... such simplicity doesn't make it "truth".
-JC
Originally posted by Churlantunless your using base 2
You are attempting to frame this debate through a "perception is reality" argument. What I am trying (and apparently failing) to point out is that this argument only applies to the spiritual, and inherently variable aspect of the discussion.
God is many things to many people, and He is nothing to the atheists among us - Perception.
1+1=2 regardless of who you ask - Truth.
-JC
then 1+1=10