Originally posted by howardgeeNo-one is saying that abortion in the sense of a natural miscarriage is murder. Look up "induced-abortion" and you might have a discussion on your hands. Btw, I'm really not in the mood for semantic gymnastics, so if you want to state your case do so by clearly by defining your terms, this includes "murder".
...if it was, then at least one miscarriage would have been investigated as manslaughter or unlawful killing.
Originally posted by NicolaasWell, the point is that neither is.
Who is gonna be charged with manslaughter or unlawful killing, the man or the woman?
Because a miscarriage is not the accidental death of an individual with rights.
Just as abortion is not the murder of an individual with rights.
Who wrote that? What is murder? Is murder the deliberate act of killing something? I guess murder can happen by accident or is it then murder? Let's assume murder is a deliberate act of killing. The argument then becomes is the 'thing' in the woman's womb a child or living being? If so, it is a form of selfish murder. The question would then be asked, When does life begin? At conception or sometime later in the womb or even at birth? This kind of statement can go on endlessly with question after question or opinion after opinion. It also becomes spiritual or religious in that ones faith in God or the Bible is brought into the picture or statement. If you believe that life begins at conception then it is murder. If you believe that life does not begin at conception but begins sometime later in the womb or at birth then it is still murder because you are snuffing the life out of a fellow human being before he/she even has a chance to live.
Originally posted by howardgeeThere is more at risk with an abortion than simply the violation of some kind of rights. One cannot seriously judge what is right and wrong by an interpretation of the Constitution. The question is not if the fetus has rights, but rather if it has a soul.
Well, the point is that neither is.
Because a miscarriage is not the accidental death of an individual with rights.
Just as abortion is not the murder of an individual with rights.
Originally posted by howardgeeCan a woman be charge with child abuse if she drinks, does drugs,
...if it was, then at least one miscarriage would have been investigated as manslaughter or unlawful killing.
and so on while there is a baby within her, providing she doesn't kill
it with an abortion?
Kelly