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@avalanchethecat

I don't care what it says in your book. If all christians are saints, why are there two different words?

There are different statuses and different aspects to people.

You may be a husband.
You may be an employee.
You may be an uncle.
You may be a citizen.

Same person - different statuses.

Maybe you want "my book" to have the simplicity of kindergarten nursery rhyme.

And now that I think about it, this is my thread that I started. And here I will
quote the Bible. So remember. No promises here to you not to refer to my book.

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There are different statuses and different aspects to people.

You may be a husband.
You may be an employee.
You may be an uncle.
You may be a citizen.

Same person - different statuses.

Maybe you want "my book" to have the simplicity of kindergarten nursery rhyme.

And now that I think about it, this is my thread that ...[text shortened]... And here I will
quote the Bible. So remember. No promises here to you not to refer to my book.
If you think that book's complicated it's probably just as well you've shied away from the sciences.

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If you think that book's complicated it's probably just as well you've shied away from the sciences.


It is not so simple that it only uses one word to describe the characteristics of believers.

I like science very much. My degree was in Computer Science.
If you have a religion of SCIENTISM, that I may shy away from.

Your pure leap of religious faith that random collisions of atoms and molecules with no purpose gave rise to a thinking mind? Now that religion of yours I may shy away from.

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And for a little science break (with thanks to God) . . .

I thank God for this planet earth tailor made for us humans.
Here's a bunch of other planets they've found !

A Planet Turned to Dust Right Before Scientists Eyes
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If you think that book's complicated it's probably just as well you've shied away from the sciences.
The second look at evalanchethecat types who pretense themselves as great
devotees to science.

Dr. James Tour: The Origin of Life is a Mystery to Scientists | FULL INTERVIEW (a nanotechnology expert and synthetic chemist)

&ab_channel=EndTimesProductions

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It is not so simple that it only uses one word to describe the characteristics of believers.

I like science very much. My degree was in Computer Science.
If you have a religion of SCIENTISM, that I may shy away from.

Your pure leap of religious faith that random collisions of atoms and molecules with no purpose gave rise to a thinking mind? Now that religion of yours I may shy away from.
The great thing about my 'religion' is that amends itself to incorporate any new data. There's no requirement for belief whatsoever.

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The great thing about my 'religion' is that amends itself to incorporate any new data. There's no requirement for belief whatsoever.

Sure. Fresh new ideas like:
Multiverse, for which there is no evidence.
Abiogenesis, for which there is no evidence.
Extraterrestrial civilizations, for which there is no evidence.

Dating rocks by the fossils they contain and dating fossils by the rocks there are found in, which is circular reasoning.

Fresh innovative ideas.
Piltdown man - a hoax.
Nebraska man - a hoax.
Java man who turned out to be fully human.
Peking man also re-classified as Homo erectus.
Homo habilis whose skull was tampered with to make it appear apelike.
Ramapithecus which turned out to be an extinct type of orangutan.

We see that some of the alleged evolutionary "ape-men" have been deliberate hoaxes. Others have simply been cases of poor science, often motivated by overzealous and wishful thinking. We do observe evidence in the fossil record of natural variability within the ape and human populations, and a grim chronicle of disease, suffering, and death. In every case, however, the bottom line is the same: there is no fossil evidence of ape-to-man human evolution.

https://www.home-school.com/Articles/hominids-hoaxes.php

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The great thing about my 'religion' is that amends itself to incorporate any new data. There's no requirement for belief whatsoever.

Sure. Fresh new ideas like:
Multiverse, for which there is no evidence.
Abiogenesis, for which there is no evidence.
Extraterrestrial civilizations, for which there is no evidence.

Dating rocks by the fo ...[text shortened]... nce of ape-to-man human evolution.[/quote]
https://www.home-school.com/Articles/hominids-hoaxes.php
Yup. Every now and then people lie for some reason. Fortunately, due to the process of scientific investigation, they get found out pretty quickly. Of course, if those lies were written down in a book with some sort of hokey guarantee of truth which everybody had to believe, then I guess you'd be right, science would be up the faecal creek sans paddle.

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Yup. Every now and then people lie for some reason.

Sometimes they lie to propagate their religion.
Make sure it doesn't happen to you.

A symptom of this could be the smugness of suggesting those who believe in the revelation of the Bible know nothing about science.

I mean smug statements like this:
If you think that book's complicated it's probably just as well you've shied away from the sciences.

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Yup. Every now and then people lie for some reason.

Sometimes they lie to propagate their religion.
Make sure it doesn't happen to you.

A symptom of this could be the smugness of suggesting those who believe in the revelation of the Bible know nothing about science.

I mean smug statements like this:
If you think that book's complicated it's probably just as well you've shied away from the sciences.
Your grasp of the sciences is quite apparent from your posting.

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And to hear the arguments the religion of scientism reminds one of some good advice.

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
- Thomas Paine


Tell us how the DNA molecule arose with no plan, no design, no forethought, no purpose or goal in mind.

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@avalanchethecat

And to hear the arguments the religion of scientism reminds one of some good advice.
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
- Thomas Paine


Tell us how the DNA molecule arose with no plan, no design, no forethought, no purpose or goal in mind.
I'm sure any knowledge I have on that would be well out of date by now. I could go read up and find out the state of the latest thinking on the subject and recount it to you, but you're not really interested in that. Seems to me that you're looking for an answer with the "simplicity of kindergarten nursery rhyme".

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Your pure leap of religious faith that random collisions of atoms and molecules with no purpose gave rise to a thinking mind? Now that religion of yours I may shy away from.
I think this is a good working definition of religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. wiki

When you start talking to obviously non-religious people about them having a "religion" and being "religious", I think it is deiberate, evasive sophistry on your part.

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This article informs of brands atheistic religions which have no superhuman deity
some may treat pagan "gods' as metaphors.

The term "pagan" applies to a variety of pre-Christian, nature-oriented religious traditions. Pagan religions are typically polytheistic, but it is possible for a person to treat the pagan gods as metaphors and not really existing. This is no different from treating the pagan stories as metaphors rather than real events, something that is even more common.

Are There Any Atheistic Religions?
https://www.learnreligions.com/are-there-any-atheistic-religions-248415

There is a rise of atheist "churches."
They are religious about their belief in no superhuman being or god.
Listen to the words of the hymn they sing below.

The godless church and the atheists taking the US by storm
&ab_channel=TheGuardian

The Rise of Atheist Churches?
&ab_channel=ReligionForBreakfast

You could also examine this-
Scientism and the Religion of Science
&t=3038s&ab_channel=BloomsburyPublishing

The Skeptical Witch
would disagree with you and say there is Atheopaganism and Religious Naturalism.
&ab_channel=TheSkepticalWitch

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I've been spam bombed.

Surely, in an arena where non-religious people are talking to religious people, religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power.

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