Originally posted by SuzianneYou mean free will to reject all other religions and non religions and ONLY your religion gets you to heaven. I don't think that is even CLOSE to free will. That is programming pure and simple.
As far as I know, when I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior, I did not have my brain, nor my free will, removed. I expect most Christians see no problem with following Christ and having our own mind. The two are not exclusive by any means. In fact, accepting Christ requires free will.
Originally posted by FMFI'm just reporting on how it is used by native speakers of English.
I'm just reporting on how it is used by native speakers of English. What you want to accept or don't want to accept does not have any impact on what speakers of English mean when they use the word.
Yes, you are definitely on to something here.
There are, indeed, some native English speakers who ascribe to your definition of the term 'atheist.'
That being said, there are far, far, far and away more native English speakers who see the term 'atheist' as something other than what you and your ilk insist the term means.
I say "ilk" pejoratively, of course, because your group is silly, obvious and quite laughable.
The term is taken by most people to mean a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
But that's not good enough for you and your little friends, is it?
The offends you, for some reason.
I have a theory as to why it offends.
It offends because it infers an assumption of the idea of God which is then rejected.
A reasonable person would consider a rejection of God as 'good enough' for the argument... but it's not.
quite.
good enough for the likes of you, is it?
Your juvenile little club isn't satisfied with rejecting the notion of God; you must pretend as though you have no thought of God at all in the first place!
Ah!
That ought to really put God in His non-existent place!
We don't even have an idea about You to reject in the first place!
Take that, non-existent God about whom I have not even an idea of!
Are you starting to see how incredibly absurd your little group is?
Prolly not, but trudge on nonetheless, fella!
What you want to accept or don't want to accept does not have any impact on what speakers of English mean when they use the word.
As cathartic as that may have been for you to type out, it likely will offer no relief when you read it... and realize the fingers are pointing at you.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHYour world is very small indeed. (As well as being flat)
[b]I'm just reporting on how it is used by native speakers of English.
Yes, you are definitely on to something here.
There are, indeed, some native English speakers who ascribe to your definition of the term 'atheist.'
That being said, there are far, far, far and away more native English speakers who see the term 'atheist' as something other than ...[text shortened]... it likely will offer no relief when you read it... and realize the fingers are pointing at you.[/b]
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI think most of this argument is due to your attempts to make atheism into some sort of character flaw. Mirror mirror on the wall whose the silliest of them all?
[b]I'm just reporting on how it is used by native speakers of English.
Yes, you are definitely on to something here.
There are, indeed, some native English speakers who ascribe to your definition of the term 'atheist.'
That being said, there are far, far, far and away more native English speakers who see the term 'atheist' as something other than ...[text shortened]... it likely will offer no relief when you read it... and realize the fingers are pointing at you.[/b]
Originally posted by DeepThoughtAtheism is a character flaw: they refuse to give credit where credit is due.
I think most of this argument is due to your attempts to make atheism into some sort of character flaw. Mirror mirror on the wall whose the silliest of them all?
Don't you worry your sweet little head, though: eventually every knee will bow.
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHSo, you disagree with me about the word "atheist" then?
... you and your ilk ... ... your group is silly, obvious and quite laughable ... you and your little friends ... the likes of you ... your juvenile little club ... see how incredibly absurd your little group is ...
05 Nov 15
Originally posted by FreakyKBHDo you think they will they be bowing to the God figure you happen to believe in, by any chance?
Atheism is a character flaw: they refuse to give credit where credit is due.
Don't you worry your sweet little head, though: eventually every knee will bow.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHEven if there were a god you are being
Atheism is a character flaw: they refuse to give credit where credit is due.
Don't you worry your sweet little head, though: eventually every knee will bow.
extremely arrogant to think you have the correct flavour;
extremely small-minded to think that it matters;
extremely sycophantic to think kneeling is required;
and most of all
extremely stupid to think that your insults matter to anyone besides yourself.
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Originally posted by wolfgang59Even if there were a god you are being
extremely arrogant to think you have the correct flavour;
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This is foolish. Would you say you are extremely arrogant to assume that your mother or your father loved you ?
Besides, it is a fact that nothing else on this earth is quite like a human being. The argument against favoritism would be stronger if other creatures on earth were more like humans.
Besides, it should be obvious from a reading of the Bible that favoritism does not mean man can do whatever he wants. There is quite a bit of displeasure, rebuke, warning, correction in the Bible.
There is no lose irresponsible favoritism that "anything goes just because you are so favored."
extremely small-minded to think that it matters;
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You may think this because you have been inundated with a sense of human insignificance by modern thought. Maybe you find realizing a Creator's favor with man because you've been indoctrinated that we are less likely to survive than the cockroach.
Could it be that exaggerated humility and self despising makes you suspicious of the theist's belief that human uniqueness tells us something about Divine favor ?
Divine favor gives dignity to every man. I have overcome a lot of hatred towards myself just by realizing being created in the image of God bestows intrinsic dignity upon me and all men and women.
extremely sycophantic to think kneeling is required;
and most of all
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We Christians just lack a belief in Atheism. Can't you realize that ?
We lack a belief that no ultimate Source and Authority of all being exists. We lack that assumption that you Atheists' have. In fact we don't have enough faith to believe that no God exists.
You can call it kissing up. But more authority over life and death was displayed in the life of Jesus. And He cared nothing for Himself but wanted everything for His Father.
A more powerful Person we have never known. A more free man we have never known. And even the tomb could not keep Him down. I would say all your proud insubordination in the name of being independent from God, doesn't impress as much as Christ's submission and obedience to His Father.
extremely stupid to think that your insults matter to anyone besides yourself.
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Freaky, who I think you were talking to, can reply for himself.
My reply is that all your complaining about how small a Christian's mind is and how huge your own is, comes up feeble to me.
Besides, disgruntled grumbling, whining and bragging how unbowed you are your atheism hasn't contributed much of anything explaining the deepest issues of life and existence.
How come never anything positive is presented as to the meaning of our being here ? How come we get nothing from you except your customary diaper rash about us seeing the universe certainly appears purposeful, intentional, well designed, though mysterious, but indicative of SOME kind of overall purpose ?
Anyway, we Christians lack a belief in Atheism. It requires more of a blind leap of faith to shrug and say "we're here just because we're here, and that's that."
I think to understand the meaning of life we have to look carefully at the life, death, and resurrection of Christ. He defines God, He explains God, He manifests God.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI'd like to know where you get your stats from Freaky. How do you know that more people use your definition of the word than use it according to the dictionary definition?
[b]I'm just reporting on how it is used by native speakers of English.
Yes, you are definitely on to something here.
There are, indeed, some native English speakers who ascribe to your definition of the term 'atheist.'
That being said, there are far, far, far and away more native English speakers who see the term 'atheist' as something other than ...[text shortened]... it likely will offer no relief when you read it... and realize the fingers are pointing at you.[/b]