American view of Atheism

Originally posted by vistesd
* Except for “Messianic Judaism”—Jews who do think Jesus was the messiah. About them, I know little (other than wiki-info).

Until He returns things will just keep tikkun over.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Until He returns things will just keep tikkun over.

Ouch! 🙂

Originally posted by KellyJay
You were talking about atheist and theist and their working towards
being righteous or good.

My point, Christians have left trying to be good enough, and have
given their righteous up for the righteousness Jesus gives. This
does not stop them/us from attempting to do right or good, but
our own good works do not define our righteousness, Jesus'
gift ...[text shortened]... d as they
see fit, their own self righteousness is the measure of all things
for them.
Kelly

I don't see what these points, whether I agree with them or not, impact on my original post.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Strike a pose; hold it! Click. Very nice...you look good in them jeans.

LOL. How'd you know?

Originally posted by Kaboooomba
it's never black and white for us to define this through someone's faith though is it?

I try not to worry about who is and isn't a Christian, God will sort it
out. The point I'd stress here is typically those that follow either of
those paths are quite out front about it, the fruit is there to be seen
as far as their actions and lives are concern.
Kelly

Originally posted by twhitehead
I dont know why you used the word faithless. If they are Christian then surely they have faith? There is a popular modified version of No 2. which goes something like this:
2b. You have to earn you way into heaven by going to church, saving other people, and praying really hard.

I was careful to use the word faithless, if they had faith in Christ
then the work for salvation would be complete in Christ for those
that feel they must add to it by their own works. Those that are
not following God are not faithful to the one they know is King
so they too are faithless in that they are not walking with the
one who shed His blood for them.

If you have to earn your way into heaven, than Jesus' has added
nothing to your life.
Kelly