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Another notch against creationists:

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Originally posted by RJHinds
If God already knew everything, then He would be unable to learn and His understanding would have a limit. For God's understanding to have no limit, He must be able to learn. It is obvious, from the Holy Bible, that there where things God did not know and had to learn just like we do.
So what you're saying is that Psalm 147 is wrong when it says Gods understanding has no limit?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Creating life in the lab would prove you don't need a deity to make life. That in turn would mean the possibility of life elsewhere in the solar system and the universe goes up exponentially.

We THINK life will show up anywhere there is a halfway decent environment for life to develop, like early Mars or maybe the deep oceans of Europa or Titan.

The ...[text shortened]... photosynthesis and so forth, the kind of reproductive process it uses, sexual, non-sexual, etc..
No doubt, there are scientists around the universe trying to manufacture life as we speak! 😛

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Originally posted by whodey
No doubt, there are scientists around the universe trying to manufacture life as we speak! 😛
And no doubt succeeding.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
http://phys.org/news/2015-03-nasa-ames-blocks-life-laboratory.html

This goes way beyond the Miller-Urey experiments.
They neither created life or proved anything else except that they artificial produced a few life forming building blocks. The rest of the discussion is only speculative jaw jacking.

I wonder how many millions could have been fed with the money wasted on the project.

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Originally posted by Rank outsider
So what you're saying is that Psalm 147 is wrong when it says Gods understanding has no limit?
How did you get that from what he said?

Even I didn't get that from what he said.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
And no doubt succeeding.
Where are the papers, then? Where are the peer-reviewed journals?

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Where are the papers, then? Where are the peer-reviewed journals?
There is a difficulty with defining what we mean by life. If it is sufficient that something can take material from its environment and create copies of itself, then creating life isn't hard - a robot with manufacturing capability would count - which is not something we would normally consider as being alive. In fact the average fire would count. The standard biological definition is, as I remember a bit fuzzy, but gives a list of properties most living things have, and typically involves a cell membrane. So what is meant when we say something is alive isn't absolutely clear.

However, if they were to create a living organism. What would that mean? It would neither prove nor disprove the creationist position nor tell us anything about whether God exists or not. All it would tell us is that scientists could create simple life forms in a laboratory.

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Originally posted by Rank outsider
So what you're saying is that Psalm 147 is wrong when it says Gods understanding has no limit?
I am not saying that Psalm 147 is wrong. I am expressing serious doubt about your understanding of Psalm 147. 😏

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Where are the papers, then? Where are the peer-reviewed journals?
You didn't know? Jeez, I thought you were well read! The papers are all right there in the Encyclopedia Galactica.

You been hiding under a rock or something?🙂

There was a particularly impressive submission by the Borgonian Academy of science and technology which started in the year 1,300,000 BCE on Sirius 4.

Don't tell me you missed that one!

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Originally posted by sonhouse
You didn't know? Jeez, I thought you were well read! The papers are all right there in the Encyclopedia Galactica.

You been hiding under a rock or something?🙂

There was a particularly impressive submission by the Borgonian Academy of science and technology which started in the year 1,300,000 BCE on Sirius 4.

Don't tell me you missed that one!
We young earth creationists have 66 books of papers that prove you wrong. 😏

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Originally posted by sonhouse
And no doubt succeeding.
Artificial life Scientist: We didn't create life from scratch



SCIENTISTS CREATE LIFE...or prove I.D.? - VENTER GROUP

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not saying that Psalm 147 is wrong. I am expressing serious doubt about your understanding of Psalm 147. 😏
Mine, and many, many Christians.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
How did you get that from what he said?

Even I didn't get that from what he said.
Do you think God is omniscient?

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Originally posted by Rank outsider
Do you think God is omniscient?
Do you? 🙄

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Originally posted by RJHinds
If God already knew everything, then He would be unable to learn and His understanding would have a limit. For God's understanding to have no limit, He must be able to learn. It is obvious, from the Holy Bible, that there where things God did not know and had to learn just like we do.
So Psalm 147 is a lie then. Glad you cleared that one up.

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