24 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauderNo kidding??
.... Look in a dictionary for the definition of homosexual and you'll find it includes lesbians as already has been pointed out to you in other threads.
So you had to learn that on one of these threads? Wow! I guess you can learn a lot around here.
Look up sarcasm next time you want to learn something new.
24 Apr 05
Originally posted by ColettiSince you're entire belief system is a joke, it's hard to tell when you're actually looking for a laugh rather than having people just laugh at you.
No kidding??
So you had to learn that on one of these threads? Wow! I guess you can learn a lot around here.
Look up sarcasm next time you want to learn something new.
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauderNo1 to Coletti: "You are either an incredibly stupid human being or the most insincere one who posts here.
You are either an incredibly stupid human being or the most insincere one who posts here. Look in a dictionary for the definition of homosexual and you'll find it includes lesbians as already has been pointed out to you in other threads.
And Ivanhoe: Yes all the atheists are anxiously waiting for the chance to put all the Christians i ...[text shortened]... Right. Get a grip and take your medication and maybe all these paranoid delusions will go away.
That's a false dichotomy.
No1 to Ivanhoe: "Yes all the atheists are anxiously waiting for the chance to put all the Christians into extermination camps."
That's strawmenreasoning.
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeYou are correct on your first point: Coletti could indeed be incredibly stupid AND insincere. I apologize for creating a false dichtomy.
No1 to Coletti: "You are either an incredibly stupid human being or the most insincere one who posts here.
That's a false dichotomy.
No1 to Ivanhoe: "Yes all the atheists are anxiously waiting for the chance to put all the Christians into extermination camps."
That's strawmenreasoning.
Ivanhoe: "Touché ...... the fact that a lot of people now have the same prejudices against the Christians as people had before World war II against the Jewish people is truly remarkable ......."
Who's creating the strawman, Ivanhoe?
25 Apr 05
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Originally posted by no1marauder
You are correct on your first point: Coletti could indeed be incredibly stupid AND insincere. I apologize for creating a false dichtomy.
Ivanhoe: "Touché ...... the fact that a lot of people now have the same prejudice ...[text shortened]... kable ......."
Who's creating the strawman, Ivanhoe?
You are, No1 !
EDIT: by the way, are you still having sleepness nights over the Medianite Massacre ?
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeNot really; there's plenty of other examples of savage butchery that your God of Abraham ordered if the Old Testament is to be believed. Does the fact that a God you consider loving and merciful directly ordered his "Chosen people" to stick swords in infants cause you any sleepless nights, Ivanhoe?
You are, No1 !
EDIT: by the way, are you still having sleepness nights over the Medianite Massacre ?
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
Not really; there's plenty of other examples of savage butchery that your God of Abraham ordered if the Old Testament is to be believed. Does the fact that a God you consider loving and merciful directly ordered his "Chosen people" to stick swords in infants cause you any sleepless nights, Ivanhoe?
No1, you often call people fanatics and religious nutcases, but I cannot help thinking you have some sort of Medianite massacre disorder, because it keeps coming back. In which obscure Christian sect were you raised No1 ?
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauderThe Jewish, Mohammedan, and Old Testament God are really the same deity. The Christian God, sorry to be obvious (but a point oft forgotten), is the New Testament God, more concerned with loving us than smiting us.
Not really; there's plenty of other examples of savage butchery that your God of Abraham ordered if the Old Testament is to be believed. Does the fact that a God you consider loving and merciful directly ordered his "Chosen people" to stick swords in infants cause you any sleepless nights, Ivanhoe?
Though, there are a fair few who might tempt Him to revert to His original habits!
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672I don't know, but it might have been a tactical error.
Why did He have a change of heart?
Did God one day sit down and say to Himself, "Self, I - We - think that you're probably causing them thar humans whole bunches 'n bunches o' misery. Den dey get up here or go down dar 'n dey just ain't dat much fun den, eeder. So's how's about we change things up a bit?"
I can think of a fair few people that might benefit from a swarm of locusts down their underpants...
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672I believe that in modern Christianity it is the "Son" part that is supposed to be loving and caring and the go-between between us slime and the wrath of the jealous, violent, disgusted, war-mongering Father.
Why did He have a change of heart?
Did God one day sit down and say to Himself, "Self, I - We - think that you're probably causing them thar humans whole bunches 'n bunches o' misery. Den dey get up here or go down dar 'n dey just ain't dat much fun den, eeder. So's how's about we change things up a bit?"
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25 Apr 05
Originally posted by thesonofsaulHmmm. Close. But the God the Father is also loving. Remember, there is only one God, and Christ and the Father are one.
I believe that in modern Christianity it is the "Son" part that is supposed to be loving and caring and the go-between between us slime and the wrath of the jealous, violent, disgusted, war-mongering Father.
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I think the mistake is in thinking that God loves everyone. There are verses that seem to say that, and God does bless even unsaved people, but the ones he loves are his chosen. That should be evident in who he chooses to save at different times in history - and who he choose to kill (either by his own hand, or through Israel). And he allowed Israel to suffer at times also.
"God is love" is not an either/or proposition. God does not have to be loving to 'all people' at 'all times' to be a loving God. If that were the case, then he would just save everyone, bless everyone, and remove all suffering and pain. That would not make us robots, just universally happy. So, it must not be about happiness, or God loves everyone, etc. God punishes and blesses - sometimes now, sometimes in the afterlife.
25 Apr 05
Originally posted by ColettiYou say the Jesus the Son and God the Father are the same entity, as do many Christians. However, this makes the action of Jesus' three-day sacrifice (the positive result of which he knew about before hand and therefore sacrificed nothing but that is a matter for a different thread) a bit of a problem, for then God sacrificed God's life to stop God from punishing the people. In other words, God intervened between the sinners and Himself, an idea that suggests God is schizophrenic, something that I am certainly not willing to accept and I'm fairly sure you aren't either. So. In some instances God and Christ are seperate, and in others they are the same. Confusing to say the least.
Hmmm. Close. But the God the Father is also loving. Remember, there is only one God, and Christ and the Father are one.
I think the mistake is in thinking that God loves everyone. There are verses that seem to say that, and God does bless even unsaved people, but the ones he loves are his chosen. That should be evident in who he chooses to s ...[text shortened]... od loves everyone, etc. God punishes and blesses - sometimes now, sometimes in the afterlife.
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