Spirituality
01 Feb 13
Originally posted by galveston75How?
We do exactly as the Bible tells us to do. If you have a problem with that, take it up with God.
I don't know if you've noticed... but god isn't evident... Or existent.
We can't take up anything with god because god isn't answering the phone.
We can only take stuff up with you.
Telling us to take it up with god is like telling us to take it up with Harvey the invisible giant rabbit.
01 Feb 13
Originally posted by googlefudgeWait a minute!!! I saw film proving that Harvey exits I know that the film is the truth!.
How?
I don't know if you've noticed... but god isn't evident... Or existent.
We can't take up anything with god because god isn't answering the phone.
We can only take stuff up with you.
Telling us to take it up with god is like telling us to take it up with Harvey the invisible giant rabbit.
02 Feb 13
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodySo you must agree that the JWs are a cult. Four against three. Now that is settled.
The definitions I have given above are from the dictionary.
A cult is any organization that venerates a particular deity person or ideal.
Practically all organized religions would fall into that category.
Especially if it's followers were so immersed in it as to
totally discount any other direction outside that which may
be their chosen way or religion.
The Jehovah Witnesses are a cult. -- By majority vote. 😏
Originally posted by divegeesterWell, then you are clear on it. But I recall being taught that excommunication from the RCC was something that doomed you and would make you an exile from your community. Both of these religions are weak enough now that they cannot nowadays be powerful enough to make "exiting members" lives truly miserable but the RCC once was able to do that, and so it met, at that time, what it would take for you to call it a cult.
I think the way the JW organisation treats exiting members is a public disgrace and I have absolutely no compunction in calling the organisation a cult irrespective or any negative connotations associated with the word.
02 Feb 13
Originally posted by divegeester2 John 1:9-11
I think the way the JW organisation treats exiting members is a public disgrace and I have absolutely no compunction in calling the organisation a cult irrespective or any negative connotations associated with the word.
New Living Translation (NLT)
9 Anyone who wanders away from this teaching has no relationship with God. But anyone who remains in the teaching of Christ has a relationship with both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don’t invite that person into your home or give any kind of encouragement. 11 Anyone who encourages such people becomes a partner in their evil work.
1 Corinthians 5:11-13
New Living Translation (NLT)
11 I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer[a] yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Don’t even eat with such people.
12 It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. 13 God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”[b]
It seems you pic and choose what you want to believe in the Bible to fit your opinions. Do as you wish. We do as God tells us in his written word.
So how dare you to judge us as we follow the Bible, not your opinions.
Originally posted by galveston75Good grief.
2 John 1:9-11
New Living Translation (NLT)
9 Anyone who wanders away from this teaching has no relationship with God. But anyone who remains in the teaching of Christ has a relationship with both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don’t invite that person into your home or give any ...[text shortened]... us in his written word.
So how dare you to judge us as we follow the Bible, not your opinions.
The gospel of Jesus Christ is so simple that people [organisations] have to complicate and pervert it. Jesus frequently mixed with and dined with sinners, the lost, the fallen, the outcasts.
Your pride in your organisation drives you to treat your own people in this despicable way based on a few scriptures about specific troublemakers. It seems to me that you that relish in your self-righteousness, safe in the knowledge that you have cast the sinner outside of the camp, the filth is expelled and what remains within is somehow purer because of it.
I wish I had the time to set up an organisation to support these people.
Originally posted by galveston75This is like when you see where Paul writes abstain from blood and you think he means do not have blood transfusions, and then you think you are following the scriptures when lives could be saved through blood transfusions. That does not seem Christ like, to me, when Christ was willing to give all his blood to save others, and you want give a drop yourself because you have a distorted view of what Paul meant.
2 John 1:9-11
New Living Translation (NLT)
9 Anyone who wanders away from this teaching has no relationship with God. But anyone who remains in the teaching of Christ has a relationship with both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don’t invite that person into your home or give any ...[text shortened]... us in his written word.
So how dare you to judge us as we follow the Bible, not your opinions.