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25 May 18
Originally posted by @apathistYou obviously know nothing about the prophecy in Daniel 9. But being the atheists’ lickspittle doesn’t require that, does it? It just requires the ability to troll like a young un.
Not by chance, but on purpose. Comes from hearing the prophecy! And then intending to fulfill it.
Which kinda makes the prophecy right.
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25 May 18
Originally posted by @apathistCiao, indeed. And maybe try reading the prophecy in Daniel 9 before you post about it.
You lost, romans 666. I see no reason to care about what you think.
I'm slow, but not at a dead stop. ciao
Posting when you’re in the deep end of the pool without your water wings is never a good idea. Just ask the scuba kid.
25 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Took me a while to figure out how to spell ciao. You aren't dealing with a smart person here.
Ciao, indeed. ...
And you lost!
26 May 18
Originally posted by @js357That process is sometimes the whole discussion. It's not as easy as you make it sound.
Anyone can specify a definition and then destroy it if there is a reduction flaw to be found. It can be done as a hypothetical.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemYou are right.
That process is sometimes the whole discussion. It's not as easy as you make it sound.
(Btw reductio became reduction while I wasn’t looking.)
26 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfHow would you characterize the message of Richard Dawkins and all the various atheist authors of books and publications, some of which are quoted in this thread, promoting atheism and denouncing belief in a creator God?
Why do some people ~ not atheists, mind you ~ suggest that atheism should have a "persuasive message" when, in fact, propagating messages is surely a matter for people operating in the realm of competing religious doctrines?
Are they not engaged in the act of producing a "persuasive message" of their own in support of atheism?
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThis thread isn't about whether someone who's an atheist is out there wanting to promote a message and hoping that people will be persuaded by it. This thread is about the idea that the term "atheism" refers to some kind of monolithic or cohesive group that promotes any given or specific message ~ when, in fact, "atheists" are a diverse group of people with diverse ideologies and concerns who simply do not subscribe to the various supposedly "persuasive messages" propagated by religionists..
How would you characterize the message of Richard Dawkins and all the various atheist authors of books and publications, some of which are quoted in this thread, promoting atheism and denouncing belief in a creator God?
Are they not engaged in the act of producing a "persuasive message" of their own in support of atheism?
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThe fact that there are people actively involved in "denouncing belief in a creator God" doesn't mean that "denouncing belief in a creator God" is the "message" of atheism. If "denouncing belief in a creator God" were the "message" of atheism, then that would make RHP posters like me way off-message.
How would you characterize the message of Richard Dawkins and all the various atheist authors of books and publications, some of which are quoted in this thread, promoting atheism and denouncing belief in a creator God?
27 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfAre you saying Dawkins and other vocal atheists don't promote a "message" in regards to the tenets of atheism to persuade the public that there is no God? That they are not a "monolithic" and "cohesive group" of atheists promoting on a global scale a belief system that not only denies the existence of God, but denounces both the God of the Bible and those who have faith in Jesus Christ?
This thread isn't about whether someone who's an atheist is out there wanting to promote a message and hoping that people will be persuaded by it. This thread is about the idea that the term "atheism" refers to some kind of monolithic or cohesive group that promotes any given or specific message ~ when, in fact, "atheists" are a diverse group of people with div ...[text shortened]... ly do not subscribe to the various supposedly "persuasive messages" propagated by religionists..
The fact that atheists are diverse and don't "subscribe" to the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ doesn't mean they don't have an agenda to propagate their own message of atheism. They do, and it's monolithic and cohesive with a ideological message whose central tenet is "there is no God".
27 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfYou're not "way off-message" FMF. You're smack in the middle of it.
The fact that there are people actively involved in "denouncing belief in a creator God" doesn't mean that "denouncing belief in a creator God" is the "message" of atheism. If "denouncing belief in a creator God" were the "message" of atheism, then that would make RHP posters like me way off-message.
Your message is there is no message from God to mankind.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonAn atheist can propagate a "message" if he or she wants. That's not in dispute.
Are you saying Dawkins and other vocal atheists don't promote a "message" in regards to the tenets of atheism to persuade the public that there is no God?
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonI don't think you have got any credible information about a god or gods for me.
Your message is there is no message from God to mankind.
Originally posted by @secondson[Atheists] do, and it's monolithic and cohesive with a ideological message whose central tenet is "there is no God".
The fact that atheists are diverse and don't "subscribe" to the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ doesn't mean they don't have an agenda to propagate their own message of atheism. They do, and it's monolithic and cohesive with a ideological message whose central tenet is "there is no God".
I have never - not even once - never in all the countless thousands of posts I've contributed here over a decade or so of being active in this community - not once have I ever claimed: "there is no God". So, I think you're just getting me mixed up with someone else.