Spirituality
04 May 07
05 May 07
Originally posted by josephwDon't know what? Judaism and Islam can trace their "ancestors" back to Abraham. Fact.
In other words you don't really know! Christianity is only 2000 years old. Islam has it's root in Ishmael, the illegitimate son, whereas Judaism traces it's roots back to Isaac the son of promise.
And don't ask me to prove it. Just go back and read about it in genesis for yourself. Also take a look at Galatians 4:22,23 and Romans 9:7,8
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05 May 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI know the typical idiot hates anyone who's not atheist or a teacher, but which hated you more? .. your mother or your father?
I know the typical right wing Christian hates anyone who's not Christian or Jewish, but which do you hate more - atheists or Muslims?
05 May 07
Originally posted by wittywonkaWhat you're talking about! You don't even read the bible do you? You obviously let others tell you what it says and means. And then you parrot those views and opinions. I can hear it in what you say.
Don't know what? Judaism and Islam can trace their "ancestors" back to Abraham. Fact.
But please don't stop fighting back! 🙂
05 May 07
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Originally posted by josephw1) I read the passages you quoted. You proved my own case. Muslims can trace their ancestral lineage to Abraham. Of course, some Christians and Jews are going to "say" that it is an illegitimate ancestor, but it is an ancestor nonetheless.
What you're talking about! You don't even read the bible do you? You obviously let others tell you what it says and means. And then you parrot those views and opinions. I can hear it in what you say.
But please don't stop fighting back! 🙂
2) You have no right to tell me whether or not I read the bible. I have, and I do. You choose passages to "site" just as often as I do. And, you make opinions on what you deem important as much as I do.
3) I'm not fighting. I'm debating.
06 May 07
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Originally posted by wittywonkaI have discovered that Christian Preachers try to teach that their problem with Islam as if it is a conflict between the descentors of Isace and Ismiel. And they teach their folower that Muslims are struggeling for this, which is far from the truth for Muslims. For Muslims both , Isace and Ismiel are Prophets. They are both the same for me, I belive in both of them, their father , and their descentors prophets including Jesus. The Majorty of Muslims are not the descentors of either of them. And I don't find this as a teaching of Islam. Islam teach that all the people are equal.
1) I read the passages you quoted. You proved my own case. Muslims can trace their ancestral lineage to Abraham. Of course, some Christians and Jews are going to "say" that it is an illegitimate ancestor, but it is an ancestor nonetheless.
2) You have no right to tell me whether or not I read the bible. I have, and I do. You choose passa on what [i]you deem important as much as I do.
3) I'm not fighting. I'm debating.
06 May 07
Originally posted by ahosyneyThank you, I needed that. This really is a pointless debate; this is part of the reason of oh so many conflicts around the world; why should I edge it along? 🙁 Thank you (sincerely)! 🙂
I have discovered that Christian Preachers try to teach that their problem with Islam as if it is a conflict between the descentors of Isace and Ismiel. And they teach their folower that Muslims are struggeling for this, which is far from the truth for Muslims. For Muslims both , Isace and Ismiel are Prophets. They are both the same for me, I belive in both ...[text shortened]... them. And I don't find this as a teaching of Islam. Islam teach that all the people are equal.
06 May 07
Originally posted by wittywonkaI'm happy that I made you happy, but really I didn't get your feeling about my post. You know , English is not my language !!!!
Thank you, I needed that. This really is a pointless debate; this is part of the reason of oh so many conflicts around the world; why should I edge it along? 🙁 Thank you (sincerely)! 🙂
06 May 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI'm of the opinion that people who hate anyone or dehumanizes
I know the typical right wing Christian hates anyone who's not Christian or Jewish, but which do you hate more - atheists or Muslims?
those that do not agree with them is scary. Lumping all this or that
into a group and calling them haters or something else as you have
done with Christains here shows your views are some what tainted
don't you think, I'm wrong in thinking this?
Kelly
09 May 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungChristians dont HATE....well they shouldn't.... we love the non-believers just as much as the fellow believers !!!!
I know the typical right wing Christian hates anyone who's not Christian or Jewish, but which do you hate more - atheists or Muslims?