Atheism R0XX0RZ

Originally posted by KellyJay
You are quick to call me a liar, quick to put words in my mouth on
things you claim I'm trying to say, I just wish you stick to those
things that are said, and pull your head out, and stop trying to put
words into my mouth, and just deal with those things I do say.
Kelly

I know you Kelly. You don't accept for a moment that you could be wrong. You might say you do, but you don't. Not really.

[edit; if you did, you'd be agnostic.]

Originally posted by KellyJay
Did it?
Kelly

Every bit of evidence we have says it did.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
But it IS your sentiment.

You need to work on your mind reading skills they are way off.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You need to work on your mind reading skills they are way off.
Kelly

Let everyone remember this, Kelly thinks that logical conjecture based on sound evidence is more compelling that that which cannot be verified.

Welcome to the ranks of evolutionists.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Why do you think this?

Also, that's not what the big bang did at all. All the BB did was create a lot of hydrogen which, under the influence of gravity condensed into clouds, then stars, which allowed the generation pf conditions suitable for nucleosynthesis. After some 10 BILLION YEARS our own star was formed. About a billion years later, our pla ...[text shortened]... here, but I suspect not. Why should there be.

This really is the greatest story ever told.

i cant believe you believe that

Originally posted by scottishinnz
This covers the bases, although I haven't read all of it.


http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0009FCA4-1A8F-1085-94F483414B7F0000

Appreciated :0)

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Let everyone remember this, Kelly thinks that logical conjecture based on sound evidence is more compelling that that which cannot be verified.

Welcome to the ranks of evolutionists.

You got all of that out of my telling you, that your mind reading
skills need work. Wow, you are an amazing person.
Kelly

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i cant believe you believe that

Just following the evidence.

Originally posted by KellyJay
You got all of that out of my telling you, that your mind reading
skills need work. Wow, you are an amazing person.
Kelly

Well, which is it? Come on, for once in your life a straight answer please.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Just following the evidence.

i think it has evidence to support it, but most if it is just far-out-there-guesses in my opinion.

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i think it has evidence to support it, but most if it is just far-out-there-guesses in my opinion.

Your opinion isn't really worth much though on the matter is it?
ARe you a scientist? Are you familiar with the evidence and the lines of reasoning that lead to the big bang model?
I would say no, in which case you can believe whatever you like. Your opinion is not likely to carry much weight though.

Perhaps, as a suggestion, you might get off your arse and posting idiotic comments to threads on a chess site, and finding out a bit more about the world around you.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I never said all beliefs are equal, at least when you use quotes
actually quote what I say okay! I'd thought you'd known that
is what quotes are for, unless you are practicing that mind
reading trick that was being talked about in another thread,
if that is the case, you are reading someone else's mind.\I
I'm also not trying to say it either, I have be ...[text shortened]... ncern I have been reading it off
and on, I'll give it more time when I'm at home.
Kelly

"What I'm really saying is faith is faith, we are people and we live by it. You can try to say your faith in the logic of some scientist is better
than someone else's faith in God, I don't care! It is still faith, when
you apply your belief system to the world around you and come up
with what you call truth or facts. You may be right, you may be wrong,
it depends on the subject matter, bottom line you are still a person of
faith, it is just being put into something other than what I put mine
into." -- KellyJay

Why are you still trying to argue that "faith is faith"? I thought we had this discussion already. I think maybe you need to stop using the words "faith" and "facts" as you obviously have no working definitions for them which would differentiate the two.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Yes science can. We don't have every bit f proof yet, but we're getting there.....

What I mean is currently and completly. I agree that at some point it most likly will be explained. Especally if past discoveries and progress is anything to go on.

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i think it has evidence to support it, but most if it is just far-out-there-guesses in my opinion.

You can't have studied the evidence or devoted your entire life to studing the universe then. Interestingly enough, some people have. Why would you not believe a theory with a bases in science and believe a theory which is nothig but pure speculation which only carries any weight because a lot of people have been convinced since birth to believe in it?

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Every bit of evidence we have says it did.

Better said, you think it does. Evidence does not talk, witnesses do.
Kelly