Spirituality
07 Jul 10
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by twhitehead==========================================
It isn't. I don't think the gospel writer expected to be taken literally.
I think it was all about theology and fulfilling prophesy, and I think he expected his readers to understand that.
I think the idea of taking it all word for word is a more modern and rather naive position.
It isn't. I don't think the gospel writer expected to be taken literally.
I think it was all about theology and fulfilling prophesy, and I think he expected his readers to understand that.
I think the idea of taking it all word for word is a more modern and rather naive position.
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That is not the impression I get from your comments. I get the impression that details were made up to manipulate the reader.
There are plenty of places in the Bible where the seam can be detected between theological concepts and historical details. The line is rather clear in most places.
Perhaps you simply pre-suppose that certain miraculous things never could happen. Yet, you would like to glean something positive from the story. So your "filter" works to explain away what you have rejected a prior.
I still think a good deal of your attitude tells us more about yourself then it does about the Bible.
"As in water face answers to face, so the heart of man to man. " (Prov. 27:19)
The things I am saying to you are not meant disrepectfully. They are my own experience in years of personal Bible reading.
I have just as many thoughts and opinions about things as you do. I learned through experience how man's heart and the word of God can act.
07 Jul 10
Unbelievers suffer from a mental disorder. They assume that because they lie and deceive so does everybody else.
Jesus was born in Bethlehem just like it says in the Bible. The men who wrote the books contained in the Bible weren't liars. The liars are those who say the men who wrote the books of Bible lied.
Now don't go getting all riled up because you think I called you a liar. None of us were even here when the liars said the Bible is wrong. You simply believe a lie. Quite a few of them in fact.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by josephwI beg your pardon? I don't believe the bible, and I can assure you that I neither lie and deceive nor make such assumptions about others. As to your ridiculous assertion that 'unbelievers suffer from a mental disorder', I ask you, do you really believe this asinine statement?
Unbelievers suffer from a mental disorder. They assume that because they lie and deceive so does everybody else.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by Rajk999Well explained.
First. here is the reason for the extra distance :
Matt 2:13 .. the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
Herod killed all the male babes in and around Bethlehem. I gue ...[text shortened]... t you probably should read the Bible for yourself. Its pretty simple to understand ...🙂 Try it.
07 Jul 10
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Originally posted by josephwI used to think you were about 16yrs old from the content of your posts until i found out how old you were. Reading the drivel you posted above i was doing teenagers an injustice.
Unbelievers suffer from a mental disorder. They assume that because they lie and deceive so does everybody else.
Jesus was born in Bethlehem just like it says in the Bible. The men who wrote the books contained in the Bible weren't liars. The liars are those who say the men who wrote the books of Bible lied.
Now don't go getting all riled up because ...[text shortened]... when the liars said the Bible is wrong. You simply believe a lie. Quite a few of them in fact.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by avalanchethecatYes. If one doesn't believe the truth, then that one suffers from a mental disorder.
I beg your pardon? I don't believe the bible, and I can assure you that I neither lie and deceive nor make such assumptions about others. As to your ridiculous assertion that 'unbelievers suffer from a mental disorder', I ask you, do you really believe this asinine statement?
If one believes a lie, and repeats the lie, then that one is lying. Simple logic.
No need to take it personally. I've been accused of much the same and worse.
Actually, This brings up an interesting point. If there be truth, and one does not believe it, Doesn't that sound like there's something wrong with that person?
Of course you'll dance around it with some kind of mental gymnastic, but you'd be wrong just the same.
I'm in a fine mood today, but my time is short, so you had better hurry and load your cannons! 😲🙂 It's for fun. We both know nothing will be settled.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by Proper KnobYou're the one that sounds like a child. You think like one too since you don't see how absurd it is to say the writers of the books of the Bible were lying.
I used to think you were about 16yrs old from the content of your posts until i found out how old you were. Reading the drivel you posted above i was doing teenagers an injustice.
You simply don't know that. You only know what the liars say.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by josephwYou are truly crazy. I'm glad it's a happy crazy, nevertheless.
Yes. If one doesn't believe the truth, then that one suffers from a mental disorder.
If one believes a lie, and repeats the lie, then that one is lying. Simple logic.
No need to take it personally. I've been accused of much the same and worse.
Actually, This brings up an interesting point. If there be truth, and one does not believe it, Doesn't th ...[text shortened]... er hurry and load your cannons! 😲🙂 It's for fun. We both know nothing will be settled.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by josephwWhat is the 'truth'?
Yes. If one doesn't believe the truth, then that one suffers from a mental disorder.
If one believes a lie, and repeats the lie, then that one is lying. Simple logic.
No need to take it personally. I've been accused of much the same and worse.
Actually, This brings up an interesting point. If there be truth, and one does not believe it, Doesn't th ...[text shortened]... er hurry and load your cannons! 😲🙂 It's for fun. We both know nothing will be settled.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by josephwSo i have to believe what you believe, otherwise i have a mental disorder?!
Christ
You know you were asking what a bigot is.................you are one.
A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
You learn something everyday.
07 Jul 10
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatroflmao
You are truly crazy. I'm glad it's a happy crazy, nevertheless.
Ask yourself, a self proclaiming honest person, why would the writers of the books of the Bible lie?
It's a lie that they lied. That's the truth.
You didn't read my whole post did you?
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by Proper KnobA bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.
So i have to believe what you believe, otherwise i have a mental disorder?!
You know you were asking what a bigot is.................you are one.
A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward ...[text shortened]... differing beliefs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
You learn something everyday.
And you are a hypocrite.
None of that definition applies to me. What I believe isn't my opinion. Your talking about yourself and you don't even realise it.
07 Jul 10
Originally posted by Proper KnobSo i have to believe what you believe, otherwise i have a mental disorder?!
So i have to believe what you believe, otherwise i have a mental disorder?!
You know you were asking what a bigot is.................you are one.
A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward ...[text shortened]... differing beliefs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
You learn something everyday.
No knob head. You have to believe the truth.
Quit being a hypocrite. Remember, there is no truth? So you say. So then when I say there is you call me a bigot.
Freaking bizarre!
