Originally posted by Zahlanzisorry? the Bible is full of metaphor, the fact that the flood was attested to by Paul,
i thought the bible has no metaphors. as in there was no metaphor for a flood, but an actuall flood happened?
Christ and Peter might be of some significance, you may want to look those references
up.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiereplaced means exactly that. as in an infallible god put forth laws he knew will be replaced a thousand or 2 years later by better(non-genocidal, psychotic) laws. pretty odd thing for god to do, wouldn't you say?
because it as replaced a by a new covenant or agreement, no one is doing away with
the word of God, do you understand the term, covenant?
Originally posted by Zahlanziyes it was quite awesome Zee, God has numerous covenants or agreements in place,
replaced means exactly that. as in an infallible god put forth laws he knew will be replaced a thousand or 2 years later by better(non-genocidal, psychotic) laws. pretty odd thing for god to do, wouldn't you say?
the Mosaic law was never intended to be permanent.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieso when jesus mentioned the flood, he was being serious and telling us it really happened, but when he spoke of the good Samaritan or the other fables he was speaking in parables? who gets to decide when jesus is really speaking seriously and when he is making stuff up so that the apes of that time to get one concept or another?
sorry? the Bible is full of metaphor, the fact that the flood was attested to by Paul,
Christ and Peter might be of some significance, you may want to look those references
up.
Originally posted by Zahlanziyes that is correct, there is no indication that either Paul, Peter or Christ held that the
so when jesus mentioned the flood, he was being serious and telling us it really happened, but when he spoke of the good Samaritan or the other fables he was speaking in parables? who gets to decide when jesus is really speaking seriously and when he is making stuff up so that the apes of that time to get one concept or another?
flood was a metaphor for something else, clearly a parable is simply a fictitious story
used to illustrate a point. Who decides, well, that would be me, seeing that i am the
foremost Biblical authority on this site 😉
Originally posted by jaywillive never pretended to be looking for something better. if you read my post im saying that i can not see what difference being a christian would make to my life. god doesnt seem to offer me anything, so why would i turn to christianity. the motivation for my post was having jw's, christians and mormans knocking on my door trying to turn me to religion. i also have a daughter (6) who has god. so im also interested to know how christians explain some of the things i dislike about the bible. so hopefully i can understand her better and support her if she stays on that path. although i will admit sometimes i do write things for a bit of a laugh.
Troll slave loving his bondage and pretending to be looking for something better:
if god came knocking on my door, what could he offer me? whats the benefits of being a christian? maybe im not looking hard enough but if i started believing and going to church and stuff i cant see how it would be good for me or anybody else, thus in my opinion making god pointless and irrelevant.
"troll slave loving his bondage" - you know i love it when you get all old testament on me jaywill!
Originally posted by robbie carrobiekewl, so an eternal omniscient god deems it is ok for a handful of humans of jewish descent to kill and maim their way to the promised land, to have slaves, to maim and kill for any minor offense, to be intolerant of any stranger, to murder little girls if they fail to prove they are virgins on their wedding night, to punish inocent relatives of a guilty party and other fun stuff, even if he knows he will change it just a moment (for him) later?
yes it was quite awesome Zee, God has numerous covenants or agreements in place,
the Mosaic law was never intended to be permanent.
glad we cleared this thing up. here i was thinking god is full of love and understanding.
i bet you are now gonna say he works in mysterious ways or that his plans are unknown to us and we can't understand them
Originally posted by ZahlanziI think you have a distorted view of the Mosiac Law, but thats not my concern, i have
kewl, so an eternal omniscient god deems it is ok for a handful of humans of jewish descent to kill and maim their way to the promised land, to have slaves, to maim and kill for any minor offense, to be intolerant of any stranger, to murder little girls if they fail to prove they are virgins on their wedding night, to punish inocent relatives of a guilty pa ...[text shortened]... ay he works in mysterious ways or that his plans are unknown to us and we can't understand them
no issues with it and neither did Jesus.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieaha, so jesus must specifically say "i am speaking in parables now, ya dumbasses, get it through your skull the good samaritan is not an actual person". if he fails to mention that and says something about a global cataclysmic flood that we have no evidence of, we must take it as real.
yes that is correct, there is no indication that either Paul, Peter or Christ held that the
flood was a metaphor for something else, clearly a parable is simply a fictitious story
used to illustrate a point. Who decides, well, that would be me, seeing that i am the
foremost Biblical authority on this site 😉
Originally posted by Zahlanziyes that is the case for clearly Paul and Peter were not speaking in parables when they
aha, so jesus must specifically say "i am speaking in parables now, ya dumbasses, get it through your skull the good samaritan is not an actual person". if he fails to mention that and says something about a global cataclysmic flood that we have no evidence of, we must take it as real.
mentioned it, sigh, why must you fight it Zee.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieya want me to quote deuteronomy, sparky? it is sociopathic, genocidal enough. i don't think even the most psychotic sadist can think of a more distorted version of it.
I think you have a distorted view of the Mosiac Law, but thats not my concern, i have
no issues with it and neither did Jesus.
Originally posted by Zahlanzithat would be Mr. Spanky to you and quote away, I have no issues with the Mosaic Law,
ya want me to quote deuteronomy, sparky? it is sociopathic, genocidal enough. i don't think even the most psychotic sadist can think of a more distorted version of it.
if it was good enough for Jesus it was good enough for me.