Spirituality
28 Apr 17
29 Apr 17
Originally posted by apathistAnyway we can without violence. Perhaps some splashes of genuine creativity
Our society here in the west suffers from some deep unjustified indoctrination. Old school instruction from old white men who did not know what stars or atoms are. How do we rise above it?
Originally posted by josephwI didn't claim that other religions had the same details or words in their texts. I simply pointed out that the "paths' that other religions envisage supposedly lead to eternal life too.
Jesus said, " I am the way". Quote from the opposing sources that you say guarantee eternal life.
Originally posted by apathistNot just native American, though the word "Spirit" may not be the same in say ... Australian indigenous culture, I'm pretty sure they have concept of it.
Native american, before influence. I think this as an old story. Kinda deist.
In Hinduism it is Vishnu - the creator of all things
29 Apr 17
Originally posted by FMFOriginally posted by FMF
I didn't claim that other religions had the same details or words in their texts. I simply pointed out that the "paths' that other religions envisage supposedly lead to eternal life too.
"Proponents of all major religions claim their paths guarantee eternal life."
Quote them.
Originally posted by josephwAs I said, I didn't claim that the other religions have the same details or words in their texts as you have in your religion. Muslims believe they are on the path to eternal life. Hindus believe they are on the path to eternal life. Jews believe they are on the path to eternal life. etc. etc.
Originally posted by FMF
[b]"Proponents of all major religions claim their paths guarantee eternal life."
Quote them.[/b]
Originally posted by FMFAs I understand Buddhism, which isn't much I admit, the entire point is to get off the wheel of life and enter a state of nonbeing. So rather than promise eternal life they promise oblivion.
Proponents of all major religions claim their paths guarantee eternal life.
Edit: I wrote that in the expectation of being corrected if I had it wrong?
Originally posted by DeepThoughtI don't really think of Buddhism as a religion, as such. But it was sloppy of me, perhaps, not to add that footnote when I referred to "all" religions, as my take on Buddhism is not shared by everyone.
As I understand Buddhism, which isn't much I admit, the entire point is to get off the wheel of life and enter a state of nonbeing. So rather than promise eternal life they promise oblivion.
Edit: I wrote that in the expectation of being corrected if I had it wrong?
30 Apr 17
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThen allow me to correct. 🙂
As I understand Buddhism, which isn't much I admit, the entire point is to get off the wheel of life and enter a state of nonbeing. So rather than promise eternal life they promise oblivion.
Edit: I wrote that in the expectation of being corrected if I had it wrong?
Think of the Buddhist monk as a grain of salt. His goal is to dissolve into the great ocean, to become part of the eternal oneness of existence. I don't think that can fairly be compared with oblivion.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYes it can, you are just window dressing it. How can there be existence without consciousness?
Then allow me to correct. 🙂
Think of the Buddhist monk as a grain of salt. His goal is to dissolve into the great ocean, to become part of the eternal oneness of existence. I don't think that can fairly be compared with oblivion.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Dukeone consciousness? what pretentiousness is this? My dear fellow what consciousness does granite rock have? Complete union without consciousness is not possible.
'One' consciousness. Think of it as complete union with God.
What else can I teach you?
What else can you teach me? something, anything would be fine.