16 Feb 18
Originally posted by @sonshipYour theology is way off, sonship. Take a look at one or two of the links I provided.
If the Gospel of Jesus is wrong and somebody like Muhammed is right, then let's eat and drink and have a good time following whatever our nature dictates, for tomorrow we die and rot.
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemExercise your thinker all you want. You still don't know.
Christians apparently do not believe in thought exercises. 😛
16 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfIt's not a thought exercise. It's a doubt exercise, and another way for you to gather evidence to support your faithless existence.
The OP is a thought exercise. You can testify about the sincerity and certainty of your faith on other threads or by starting your own thread about it.
Originally posted by @fmfUnless I’m mistaken what you refer to as the Abrahamic God is also the God of Judaism and Islam.
It's just a thought exercise on a debate and discussion message board on a chess website, sonship. I'm not Muslim. With the life you live, how would you fare if the version of the Abrahamic God you worship was wrong and Islam has it right?
Jews and Muslims just deny Jesus Christ was the Messiah and deny the Trinity, but they both accept the Old Testament.
If by “Abrahamic God,” you’re referring to the Trinity, your use of the term would be correctly confined to Christianity, but I’m not sure that’s what you’re doing.
Originally posted by @sonshipBefore Jesus Christ, every knee shall one day bow.
Calling all Christians.
If the Gospel of Jesus is wrong and somebody like Muhammed is right, then let's eat and drink and have a good time following whatever our nature dictates, for tomorrow we die and rot.
As it stands, the life and words of Jesus I think we can all take to the bank. The universal vindication of Jesus of Nazareth, I think, is the one inevitable event of human history.
“Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
(Philippians 2:4-11)
16 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009The Abrahamic God is the God of Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
Unless I’m mistaken what you refer to as the Abrahamic God is also the God of Judaism and Islam.
Jews and Muslims just deny Jesus Christ was the Messiah and deny the Trinity, but they both accept the Old Testament.
If by “Abrahamic God,” you’re referring to the Trinity, your use of the term would be correctly confined to Christianity, but I’m not sure that’s what you’re doing.
16 Feb 18
Originally posted by @secondsonYou are mistaken. The OP is a thought exercise. The nature of my existence is irrelevant.
It's not a thought exercise. It's a doubt exercise, and another way for you to gather evidence to support your faithless existence.
16 Feb 18
Originally posted by @whodeyNo you didn't. Here again: If you're wrong, and Islam is right, and assuming you pass the 'faith' requirement for your belief in the Abrahamic God [and you're forgiven for being sidetracked by the Christian distortion of the Prophet Jesus story], how do you think you will fare?
I answered it.
Let the judgment fall where it may either way.
16 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I am using standard terminology. What about the question in the OP?
Then you’re defining “Abrahamic God” to simply mean the God of Abraham and are making no claims as to its nature or composition.
16 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Hence the links I provided in the OP.
I guess it depends on the requirements for salvation in Islam and what that religion says happens to non-adherents in the afterlife.
Originally posted by @fmfI already addressed it. It depends on what Islam’s requirements for salvation are (I think but am not sure a trip to “Mecca” is one of them) and what Islam says happens to non-Muslims in the afterlife. I don’t know the answer to either of those questions and consider the answers to be irrelevant.
I am using standard terminology. What about the question in the OP?
Originally posted by @romans1009This is way off topic.
But I’m not at all worried as I (and many others far better at reviewing evidence than I) think the evidence for Jesus Christ’s deity and Resurrection is overwhelming (no, not proof, because one cannot please God without faith.)