11 Jul 07
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThanks for the link.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,434972,00.html
"The souvenir items run the gamut from fashion (a Ratzinger hat), to food (the Ratzi bratwurst), to alcoholic beverages (Benedict Beer) to china (Ratzinger teacups)."
"For €5, pilgrims can purchase a small bottle of holy water"
"And as if Ratzinger's divine boss -- Jesus Chris ...[text shortened]... rchants from the temple, the Catholic Church has its own fingers in the moneymaking pie."
11 Jul 07
Originally posted by lucifershammerSo you agree that a Baptist "church" is not a real church, correct?
Actually, it's the CDF (with Papal approval).
But, yes, they're correct in stating traditional Catholic teaching (incidentally, with respect to what it says about Protestant denominations, it's traditional Orthodox teaching as well).
11 Jul 07
Originally posted by lucifershammerThen I guess you'd be surprised to learn that most people who attend "churches" believe that they are attending real churches. What mother gathers up her young ones on Sunday morning to haul them off to pseudo-church? Not everybody views the world through the lens of Catholicism, praise Jesus.
Again, not sure what the big surprise here is.
Do you think the Catholic church is defective?
11 Jul 07
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesOf course most people who attend churches (I normally use lowercase 'church' in the common sense of the term and uppercase 'Church' when I'm using it in the technical sense) believe they are attending "real churches". What's your point here? It's also rather self-evident that most (if not all) non-Catholics would not view the world through Catholic eyes. Again, what's the point here?
Then I guess you'd be surprised to learn that most people who attend "churches" believe that they are attending real churches. What mother gathers up her young ones on Sunday morning to haul them off to pseudo-church? Not everybody views the world through the lens of Catholicism, praise Jesus.
Do you think the Catholic church is defective?
Obviously, it is equally self-evident that the Catholic Church would view the world through Catholic eyes. What are you so surprised about?
Do you think the Catholic church is defective?
In the theo-technical sense, no.
11 Jul 07
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Yes, a good friend of mine is devoutly Catholic, and when my wife and I have gone to visit with her, she's intimated that were we to attend Mass with her, my wife could not take the Eucharist. Instead, my wife would be expected to remain in her seat during the ritual, and pray for the reunification of the church.
Annoying, but not surprising, per se.
12 Jul 07
Originally posted by blakbuzzrdActually, these days, non-Catholics can come forward with Catholics but, instead of receiving the Eucharist, receives a blessing from the priest.
Yes, a good friend of mine is devoutly Catholic, and when my wife and I have gone to visit with her, she's intimated that were we to attend Mass with her, my wife could not take the Eucharist. Instead, my wife would be expected to remain in her seat during the ritual, and pray for the reunification of the church.
Annoying, but not surprising, per se.
12 Jul 07
Originally posted by blakbuzzrdHer friend is going by the information written on the inside cover of the missalette, the book many parishes use at mass that has the weekly readings and other useful information so that people may follow along. The friend is accurately passing along what it says there.
Hmm. That's weird -- maybe my wife misunderstood. Or maybe her friend was a bit off in her own understanding.
It is equally true that a person who is not receiving communion may go up and receive a blessing instead. This includes children who are not old enough to receive. This is not a well-known piece of information, though, so the friend might not be aware of this.
12 Jul 07
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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/10/ap/world/main3039566.shtml
Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that [b]other Christian denominations were not true churches.
Is the Pope correct, or ju it roundly. It's absolutely hilarious to see the Pope employ it in an official proclamation.[/b]It is high time you read the original and complete Church documents instead of fragmented and usually not objective reports on them.
13 Jul 07
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The real problem here is the definition of "church". The church is the body of Christ, speaking Biblically. That is the body of all believers, irrespective of the banner they go under, and that is what the Reformation was all about.
But then the Catholic church has always gone deliriously on as if the Reformation never happened 😉
13 Jul 07
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Originally posted by lucifershammerThis practice is common in America, in my experience.
Actually, these days, non-Catholics can come forward with Catholics but, instead of receiving the Eucharist, receives a blessing from the priest.
Nemesio
Edit: It is also for practicing Roman Catholics who are not in the proper
state to receive Communion.