27 Mar 07
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThe Logical Lion is admirably tryin'
This essay attempts to equip the reader with a familiarity with axioms and their role in the critical thinking framework.
to correct all the flawed thoughts underlyin'
those who fail in complyin' the rules he's supplyin'.
He appeals to the 'Truth;' Me? I'm just sighin'.
I've seen him jive about universal discourse;
I've watched him provide evidence to reinforce
the claims that he makes with source after source,
and blather and bray until he makes himself hoarse.
Aks him his axioms, he'll lay yo' ass flat.
Like a gattling gun goin' rat-a-tat-tat,
He'll proposition yo' mind fasta than a 3-dolla' ho,
all the while waitin' on some quid pro quo.
He'll be deducting left, and abducting right,
typin' out answers in the dark of the night,
showin' you how yo' wrongs are a blight,
how you tryin' to assert that jet black is stark white.
But you won't be contrite; you'll try to incite
with comments so trite that you sit down and write.
You'll take great delight at the depth of his plight
as he tries to put out each fire you ignite.
That's because, in spite of his reason,
he can't step away from intellectual treason.
And since his currency's logic, there is no appeasin'
the financially impoverished with inductional wheezin'.
So...
You can't speak the language, he can't pay the fee.
No amount of effort can get you to agree.
Of the few things that I'm able to guarantee
you'll be better off away watchin' TV.
There's no mo' room fo' yo' mind to expand;
It's like an unanchored ship floatin' around unmanned.
So give up on tryin' to understand
soon befo' he gets himself banned.
P.S. I couldn't think of anything that rhymes reasonably with axiom...
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomYo, here to say it all Dr. S, makin' the grey matter quiver
why is this a freestyle thread now?
Ya'll give it up fo my numba one nigga
Spittin' out truth and being so bold
Knowledge from time past foretold
Yea shall know the truth, it shall make ya free
What ya don't know is it don't come cheap
Ivory Tower gettin rid of the free ride
Take yo cheap ass free grace outside
27 Mar 07
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Originally posted by NemesioPlenty of rhymes rhyme wit axiom
I couldn't think of anything that rhymes reasonably with axiom...
And I like tha shape of yo' mama's rack, see I'm
Always hittin' it from behind in the back seat o' my
Benz and tha whole BWA's got my back, so, um,
Better step off cuz I gotz tha maximum,
No, make that the blaximum,
Rhymin' skillz, you just got tha whaximum.
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesFo shizzle yo rhymes ain't going laxium
Plenty of rhymes rhyme wit axiom
And I like tha shape of yo' mama's rack, see I'm
Always hittin' it from behind in the back seat o' my
Benz and tha whole BWA's got my back, so, um,
Better step off cuz I gotz tha maximum,
No, make that the blaximum,
Rhymin' skillz, you just got tha whaximum.
Puttin up fear like tha IRS man goin taxium
Receive, receive , do not be deceptive
Let ya knowledge grow like Mokko wid out contraceptive
Ya dig?
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesEVSOA
Yo, my logic's like dis: I gots to keep bringin' it
It's like Amazin' Grace: tha choir gots to keep singin' it
It's like yo' mama's phone: I gots to keep ringin' it
I sell it on tha cheap but I gots to keep slingin' it
Dis widom ain't free, I ain't give it away
Dr. S be tha piper, and niggaz gots to pay
I come to collect at the end of the d ...[text shortened]... knowledge but I still got tha most
I'm tha Logical Lion from tha Ivory Coast
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesNo, he didn't! Yes, he did! He got up in my grill.
Yo, my logic's like dis: I gots to keep bringin' it
It's like Amazin' Grace: tha choir gots to keep singin' it
It's like yo' mama's phone: I gots to keep ringin' it
I sell it on tha cheap but I gots to keep slingin' it
Dis widom ain't free, I ain't give it away
Dr. S be tha piper, and niggaz gots to pay
I come to collect at the end of the d ...[text shortened]... knowledge but I still got tha most
I'm tha Logical Lion from tha Ivory Coast
Tryin' to flip words with trivial skill?
Nah, son, you ain't worth the rhymes that I trill;
Like a mouse to a cat -- I play 'fo' I kill.
You gots some nerve slingin' up all that junk.
Spirituality forum it is, but I ain't no monk.
I'm sold on reason, you gots nuthin to debunk.
All you gonna do is expose yo'self as a punk.
I'll out-rhyme you in english, spanish, latin or greek.
Hell, I'll even let you pick the language I speak!
I know what it is: It's my knowledge you seek,
a desire to witness a man with technique.
So it's the Truth yo' after, with a capital 'T?'
And then you start flappin' yo' lips right at me?
Takin' you out is low fruit on the tree,
But, instead of taking you over my knee...
Okay, son, I'll play. Come out of the sandbox.
My poetry's bound to clean out yo' clocks.
I'll let you open the Tabernacle of Rhyme,
to bask in the presence of my ballads divine.
My lyrics are solid, my jargon top-drawer,
And I'm layin' it down nice 'cause we gots some rapport.
And cause yo' mom's in my stable (my #2 whore),
I won't wipe yo' mug all over my floor.
You may be a doctor, but I'm Divinitatis Doctor.
You may be a lion, but I know how to roar.
Yo' rhymes are a bore, makin' everyone snore.
Betta run home now, don't let yo' ass hit the door.
Here's the part that's gonna annoy ya,
my rep's as strong as a Western Sequoia.
My rhymes will excite yo' incipient paranoia,
and no doubt befo' long you'll be near metanoia. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repentance[/url]
It musta took time to take a survey,
to rifle through garbage to get DNA,
to question every Tom, Dick, Dwight and José
Why? Yo' moms' like Hawaii -- everyone gets a lay.
But, 'cause I'm nice and yo' rhymes are passé,
I'm gonna let you off easy, yo' questions allay:
I'm yo' dad, and, though it might cause dismay,
I gots only one rule: to hear my rhyme is to obey.
So drop the mic now, and bid me adieu,
save some face, son, you bit off more than you can chew.
Give up 'fo I give yo' ass a tattoo.
I've got 15-year old pimp sticks taller than you.
Nemesio
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by NemesioSomething leaked up in here!
No, he didn't! Yes, he did! He got up in my grill.
Tryin' to flip words with trivial skill?
Nah, son, you ain't worth the rhymes that I trill;
Like a mouse to a cat -- I play 'fo' I kill.
You gots some nerve slingin' up all that junk.
Spirituality forum it is, but I ain't no monk.
I'm sold on reason, you gots nuthin to debunk.
All you gonna do is ...[text shortened]... old pimp sticks taller than you.
Nemesio
Clean it up! Get a towel!
It's chronic, like haemorrhoids
in yo' mom's bowel!
In accordance wif' what
Nostradamus foretold
I am back in tha house
and my pimpstick is gold!
There's but one axiom,
in tight rhyming writ:
Hroth duot meschmacken
eist Pimpenschwert mit!
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by ChronicLeakysomethin is leakin
Something leaked up in here!
Clean it up! Get a towel!
It's chronic, like haemorrhoids
in yo' mom's bowel!
In accordance wif' what
Nostradamus foretold
I am back in tha house
and my pimpstick is gold!
There's but one axiom,
in tight rhyming writ:
Hroth duot meschmacken
eist Pimpenschwert mit!
sneakin, creepin, peekin, and its freakin winkin
me in the face
hurry to the bathroom to dispose of your waste
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomYo' rhymin' reads like P Dubya EI's:
somethin is leakin
sneakin, creepin, peekin, and its freakin winkin
me in the face
hurry to the bathroom to dispose of your waste
it's derivative, fool, you best recognise.
Auslander, yo' rappin' wants fo' exercise
lest it get grow to the size of yo' momma's fat thighs!
27 Mar 07
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesOr perhaps the question intended was "Can all true propositions in a universe of discourse be deduced from its axioms?" Again, No. This is one aspect of the Comparison Devil. See Goedel for more details.
Part V: Clarifications
Commentary was requested regarding "a logical system being incapable of proving all its axioms." I hope that after reading Parts I through IV, one recalls the famous quote of Charles Babbage, "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." In short, an axiom constit ...[text shortened]... ?" Again, No. This is one aspect of the Comparison Devil. See Goedel for more details.
Yes, that was it. I remembered it backwards. I’m assuming that an axiom might be drawn from inductive or abductive inference.
Am looking at Goedel’s incompleteness theorems. Can find no on-line reference to the “Comparison Devil.” Can you expand on that just a bit?
Will print out your essay for further study (thanks much, and recced across the board).
For the moment, does the following seem correct?
Assuming a theistic universe of discourse—
(1) If God’s existence is taken as axiomatic for any (logical) system purporting itself to demonstrate such existence, then (a) that is a logical error in terms of the direction of proof; and (b) that error can only be rectified by identifying an alternative axiom, independent of the existence axiom, that ends up replacing it.
(2) Not all true propositions about such a God can be deduced from the axioms of that system.
(3) Such a system cannot contain a statement of its own consistency without itself being inconsistent (2nd incompleteness theorem).