Can information increase?

Originally posted by dj2becker
YES.

Originally posted by dj2becker
If they could they would be doing it because of 'intelligent intervention', ie. human's having designed them.

Besides, I don't know of a computer program in which you can insert millions of letters from the alphabet in a random sequence which will re-arrange the letters into useful information, e.g. such as Shakespeare's works. Yet many people beli ...[text shortened]... simply happen by chance without intelligent intervention. That is exactly what I am questioning.

Originally posted by PotatoError
Originally posted by dj2becker
[b]Then how do you know that nature and evolution is not the equivelant of a computer program built by God?

Because nature and evolution does not contain intelligence. i.e. the ability to produce order from chaos in such an extent as to produce life from non-life.

But if God intelligently designed e ...[text shortened]... ]

Gravity: rather than randomly flying about, matter is pulled into ordered orbiting systems.[/b]

Originally posted by telerion
[b]Because nature and evolution does not contain intelligence. i.e. the ability to produce order from chaos in such an extent as to produce life from non-life.

By that definition of intelligence, all higher mammals, including humans, lack intelligence.
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Originally posted by dj2becker
Are you saying that human's will never create life in the laboratory?

Originally posted by Coletti
Yes, as the rest of the post said, by offsetting the order from another subsystem. The other subsystem would have a larger increase in disorder. A measure of the total order in all the systems would show an increase in disorder.

Order ...[text shortened]... rgy to increase the potential energy then you will get out of it.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
How do you know that?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
[b]Yet many people believe that this can simply happen by chance without intelligent intervention.

I don't think this is true. Where did you get the idea that many people believe this?

But the question at hand is whether such a system is capable of producing life from non-life.

No, that was not the question at hand. Please don't make things up.[/b]

Originally posted by xxxenophobe
I think i created life in my tpoilet an hour ago.. it was a scarry beast of imesurable size and ferosity of rank... it had to be euthanized though... it was threatening to overtake the world with a rank unbeknown to mankind...🙄

Originally posted by Coletti
Yes, as the rest of the post said, by offsetting the order from another subsystem. The other subsystem would have a larger increase in disorder. A measure of the total order in all the systems would show an increase in disorder.

Order ...[text shortened]... rgy to increase the potential energy then you will get out of it.

Originally posted by frogstomp
Isn't it really simply a transfer of energy.
The basic elements of life Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen and Oxygen are either formed in the Big Bang (Hygrogen) or aproximatelly the same size stars.
Clouds of organic compounds have been discovered in space, attesting to the availablility of them to be in the matter ...[text shortened]...
Is it only a coincidence that Life is made of the elements that make up the ecosphere?

Originally posted by dj2becker
What caused the big bang? If there was such a thing...

Originally posted by frogstomp
Don't know and there was

Originally posted by dj2becker
You don't know what caued the big bang, but still you insist there was one?

Well, I also believe that there was a big bang. But my big bang is slightly different from yours. I know what caused my big bang. I believe God spoke, and BANG! it happened...

Do you think gravity could create life from non-life?

No, but I think it can produce order from disorder without intelligent intervention.