Originally posted by bbarr'Two witnesses'
So the whole "two witness" thing is sort of a red herring?
Jehovah's Witnesses' congregational judicial policies require the testimony of two material witnesses to establish a perpetrator's serious sin in the absence of confession,[5] based on their interpretation of scriptures such as Deuteronomy 17:6 and 1 Timothy 5:19. This policy is felt to be a protection against malicious accusation of sexual assault. The Watch Tower Society's Public Information Department specifies that this two-witness policy is applied solely to congregational discipline and has no bearing on whether a crime is reported to the authorities. It is not necessary for both witnesses to have observed the same instance of child molestation to establish guilt. As of 1991, statements by two victims of separate incidents by the same perpetrator may be deemed sufficient to take action and impose internal sanctions.[2][6][7] DNA evidence, medical reports, or information from forensic experts or police that proves sexual abuse is also accepted as a valid "second witness".
In cases where there is only one eye-witness—the victim—to an allegation of child abuse, elders are instructed to monitor the accused individual closely, and in most cases suspend his conspicuous privileges. If there is evidence to suggest that the alleged perpetrator did abuse children, privileges are revoked and a warning is given to the congregation for its protection.[8]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThanks buddy......
'Two witnesses'
Jehovah's Witnesses' congregational judicial policies require the testimony of two material witnesses to establish a perpetrator's serious sin in the absence of confession,[5] based on their interpretation of scriptures such as Deuteronomy 17:6 and 1 Timothy 5:19. This policy is felt to be a protection against malicious accusation ...[text shortened]... privileges are revoked and a warning is given to the congregation for its protection.[8]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAt least this answer is coherent
'Two witnesses'
Jehovah's Witnesses' congregational judicial policies require the testimony of two material witnesses to establish a perpetrator's serious sin in the absence of confession,[5] based on their interpretation of scriptures such as Deuteronomy 17:6 and 1 Timothy 5:19. This policy is felt to be a protection against malicious accusation ...[text shortened]... privileges are revoked and a warning is given to the congregation for its protection.[8]
Manny
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYeah, I read that too, but there was no citation for the claim about allowing DNA or other forensic evidence to count as a "second witness". That's why I asked. Galveston says proof is proof, so...
'Two witnesses'
Jehovah's Witnesses' congregational judicial policies require the testimony of two material witnesses to establish a perpetrator's serious sin in the absence of confession,[5] based on their interpretation of scriptures such as Deuteronomy 17:6 and 1 Timothy 5:19. This policy is felt to be a protection against malicious accusation ...[text shortened]... privileges are revoked and a warning is given to the congregation for its protection.[8]
Originally posted by galveston75there best left to themselves to be honest, they contribute nothing to our
Exactly...... God will never let them see the reasoning and wisdom on this as long as they don't want to see.
understanding, dredge up ludicrous assertions from dubious sources, when its clear we
have an exceptional record of producing beautiful young people who are healthy and
balanced, its the best they can do, is allege this and allege that, it feeds their hatred,
its all they can do.
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Originally posted by menace71They respect what they take to be legitimate authority, and they don't want to fight wars. What makes you think they don't want roads and national defense and public health initiatives? Come on, now. I'd bet they'd pony up their share of taxes, even if they could opt out. They are citizens, you know.
The JW's really don't respect authority or government and would evade in anyway possible if they could. No taxes. No military service ect.........
Manny