Spirituality
09 May 17
Originally posted by apathistDoes that make sense to you?
Does that make sense to you? Is it best to decide that difficult decisions should be the hard way? Is it best to never be comfortable?
That depends on exactly what you mean.
Is it best to decide that difficult decisions should be the hard way?
I'm having difficulty deciding what you mean by "the hard way".
Is it best to never be comfortable?
Comfortable in what way? Emotionally? Psychologically? Physically?
When I approach a task I usually tackle the most difficult aspects of it first. For example; when I build a structure I lay in the foundation first. That's basically where the hardest work is.
Originally posted by josephwSo do you think it would be easier to install the windows and doors first, and maybe the electrics and water pipes, before moving on to the roof and leave the foundations till last?
When I approach a task I usually tackle the most difficult aspects of it first. For example; when I build a structure I lay in the foundation first. That's basically where the hardest work is.
Originally posted by apathistIt's not obvious what you are talking about. A difficult decision is a decision which is close. What I think you might mean is a decision between two alternatives where one has an immediate payoff but potentially comes with long term problems and an option which involves a potentially tenuous long term payoff.
Does that make sense to you? Is it best to decide that difficult decisions should be the hard way? Is it best to never be comfortable?
Assuming that is what you mean then there is something about human psychology which insists that any worthwhile long term goal has to involve short term hardships. The short term hardships provide a proof that the long term advantage exists. The logic is spurious, however try promising an easy path to eternal life and you'll get surprisingly few followers.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtI disagree. There are countless millions of 'Once Saved Always Saved' Christians in the world (who are amply represented on this forum) and theirs is undoubtedly an 'easy path to eternal life'-type theology.
The logic is spurious, however try promising an easy path to eternal life and you'll get surprisingly few followers.
Essentially, it simply involves thinking (and declaring) stuff about themselves and thinking stuff about God, and goes to great lengths to downplay harder and more difficult-to-do stuff like 'living a good life' and 'doing good works' and sacrificing oneself for others.
They even have all manner of 'intellectual' arguments to convince themselves that their "sins" do not matter and that their eternal life is guaranteed.
Talk-the-talk Christianity appears to be a lot more popular than walk-the-walk Christianity.
Originally posted by FMFIt seems so easy because you think that what appears to be the final disposition is what it's all about.
I disagree. There are countless millions of 'Once Saved Always Saved' Christians in the world (who are amply represented on this forum) and theirs is undoubtedly an 'easy path to eternal life'-type theology.
Essentially, it simply involves thinking (and declaring) stuff about themselves and thinking stuff about God, and goes to great lengths to downplay hard ...[text shortened]...
Talk-the-talk Christianity appears to be a lot more popular than walk-the-walk Christianity.
It's not.
When we wake up, we will realize 'this': this life, this plane, this existence was nothing more than the unclear thought, the barely-recalled dream to 'that' reality.
Salvation just gets you in the door.
What comes next is the real fun.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThis sounds like an attempt to 'big up' your 'easy path' superstitions with some pretentious waffle.
It seems so easy because you think that what appears to be the final disposition is what it's all about.
It's not.
When we wake up, we will realize 'this': this life, this plane, this existence was nothing more than the unclear thought, the barely-recalled dream to 'that' reality.
Salvation just gets you in the door.
What comes next is the real fun.
12 May 17
Originally posted by DeepThoughtTalk therapy bs. I'm there, I'm in this, so I listen, but this instruction doesn't feel right. I get that we should push against our comfort zone, but I don't accept that the harsher the option, the more we should chase it.
It's not obvious what you are talking about. A difficult decision is a decision which is close. ...
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI fuss against the idea that the hard way is the only way where we should move. So we agree? I don't care about your question, I just want to win the battle.
It wasn't intentionally cryptic, but I can certainly flesh it out.
What is the ultimate goal which would assume the hardest path is the only route?