Spirituality
25 Jul 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerLike viral resistance to antibiotics maybe?
Have beneficial mutations ever been observed in life forms simpler than single celled organisms for example?
Originally posted by @divegeesterVery beneficial for the survival of life indeed. 🙄
Like viral resistance to antibiotics maybe?
Surely you can't believe an example of a mutation that benefits something that aims to destroy life is evidence that simple organisms can become more complex as a result of said mutations?
Originally posted by @kellyjayGood and bad mutations are both very rare. So natural selection can act on them separately, since they typically don't occur simultaneously in the same organism's descendants.
The fact that you think it’s true. Suppressing dissent doesn’t mean it isn’t there, any more than suggesting bad mutations are eliminated in favor of the good ones. So the good and bad would have to go forward in each life form, moreover due to the complexity of life even the good ones reacting with each new generation would not be able to accumulate in such a fashion to evolve into more complex life with all the bells and whistles life has.
24 Aug 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThere is indeed a lot of evidence. Some of it is summarized on this page:
Kazet is claimaing that complex organisms can occasionally undergo beneficial mutations. This does not prove that the same applies to simple organisms. (never mind that those simple organisms can change into complex ones) Since he believes that complex life as we know it evolved from material even simpler than single celled organisms he should surely have loads of evidence to back up his claim. Surely he isn't imagining this is he?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
24 Aug 18
Anyone surprised that KJ is unable to post a detailed explanation of the basic mechanics of natural selection? He can claim that he understands it all he wants, but it is quite telling that when it comes to demonstrating that he actually understands it, he is unable.
Of course he'll create a rationalization or two for not doing so.
24 Aug 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorra"Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations." That does not mean it explains how simple organisms can evolve into new more complex species due to mutations.
There is indeed a lot of evidence. Some of it is summarized on this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
24 Aug 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI answered your question with a perfect example; you just don't like the answer and so are creating an emotional ad hominem against the virus which is a living creature. It's ability to build resistance to antibiotics is a result of natural selection.
Very beneficial for the survival of life indeed. 🙄
Surely you can't believe an example of a mutation that benefits something that aims to destroy life is evidence that simple organisms can become more complex as a result of said mutations?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIt does explain that.
"Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations." That does not mean it explains how simple organisms can evolve into new more complex species due to mutations.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraQuote the part from the text that you feel is the strongest evidence.
There is indeed a lot of evidence. Some of it is summarized on this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
24 Aug 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterYou must have slept during your biology classes. Virus are non living.
I answered your question with a perfect example; you just don't like the answer and so are creating an emotional ad hominem against the virus which is a living creature. It's ability to build resistance to antibiotics is a result of natural selection.
24 Aug 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraMaybe if you have a vivid imagination.
It does explain that.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerOr if you know what evolution is.
Maybe if you have a vivid imagination.
24 Aug 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDo you really think 150 years of biology can be condensed into a single quote?
Quote the part from the text that you feel is the strongest evidence.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerFeel free to run, hide and dodge from the actual point which is that bacteria, not viruses, evolve to become antibiotic resistant. Are you going to tell me a bacteria is not a living thing now?
You must have slept during your biology classes. Virus are non living.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraYou may not have conversed with dj2becker before; he is also @Fetchmyjunk and possibly @Romans1009.
Do you really think 150 years of biology can be condensed into a single quote?
He is widely regarded in this forum and a being a bit of a bellend.