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Originally posted by divegeester
I'm pointing out scriptural facts to you. You are making an assumption that the disciples used another formula of Father, son and Holy Ghost. You are adding this to scripture when it didn't happen.
Nudge for Mr Hinds.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Nudge for Mr Hinds.
Mr Smugface conveniently disappears when he is backed into a corner - or just says: that is your opinion, and I have mine!

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Originally posted by divegeester
Nudge for Mr Hinds.
To baptize in the name Jesus or Yahshua is to baptize according to His authority, which is the same as baptizing in the name or authority of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is just as good.

Notice that in Acts 10:48 that the baptism was in the name of the Lord. So using the name Jesus only is not a formula for baptizing. As the apostle Paul said,

For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

(1 Corinthians 12:13 NASB)

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Notice that in Acts 10:48 that the baptism was in the name of the Lord.
Incorrect.

Acts 10:48
And he (Peter) ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

I'm pointing out the scriptural facts to you. You are making an assumption that the disciples used another formula of Father, son and Holy Ghost. You are adding this to scripture when it didn't happen, never, not even once.

Will you therefore reconsider your position on being baptised in Jesus name?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Incorrect.

Acts 10:48
And he (Peter) [b]ordered
them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

I'm pointing out the scriptural facts to you. You are making an assumption that the disciples used another formula of Father, son and Holy Ghost. You are adding this to scripture when it didn't happen, never, not even once.

Will you therefore reconsider your position on being baptised in Jesus name?[/b]
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

(Acts 10:48 KJV)

Even if you take your version, then Jesus Christ is not the name Jesus only. Actually the apostles never even heard of the name Jesus or Jehovah. So that is nonsense to say one must use the name "Jesus" only to be baptized. Jesus is just the way Yahshua is translated today.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
(Acts 10:48 KJV)
Even if you take your version, then Jesus Christ is not the name Jesus only.
Here are a list of translations quoting Acts 10:48. Only KJVs leave out the name of Jesus, and even they still do not mention "Father, Son and holy Spirit". And of course this is just one instance of many times in the NT where the disciples used the name of Jesus. Besides are you saying Jesus is NOT Lord?

New International Version
So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.

New Living Translation
So he gave orders for them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Afterward Cornelius asked him to stay with them for several days.

English Standard Version
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days.

New American Standard Bible
And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

King James Bible
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay for a few days.

International Standard Version
So Peter ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus the Messiah. Then they asked him to stay there for several days.

NET Bible
So he gave orders to have them baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay for several days.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Then he commanded them to be baptized in the name of our Lord Yeshua The Messiah, and they begged him to stay with them for some days.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
So Peter ordered that they should be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for several days.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they begged him to tarry certain days.

King James 2000 Bible
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to tarry certain days.

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KJ, have you abandoned our discussion?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Here are a list of translations quoting Acts 10:48. Only KJVs leave out the name of Jesus, and even they still do not mention "Father, Son and holy Spirit". And of course this is just one instance of many times in the NT where the disciples used the name of Jesus. Besides are you saying Jesus is NOT Lord?

New International Version
So he ordered th ...[text shortened]... ommanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to tarry certain days.
You are wrong for here are some more translations that say Lord only.

Darby Bible Translation
And he commanded them to be baptised in the name of the Lord. Then they begged him to stay some days.

Webster's Bible Translation
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they requested him to tarry certain days.

Young's Literal Translation
he commanded them also to be baptized in the name of the Lord; then they besought him to remain certain days.

The Interlinear Bible
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to remain some days.

What did Jesus say?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
[b]You are wrong for here are some more translations that say Lord only.

Darby Bible Translation
And he commanded them to be baptised in the name of the Lord. Then they begged him to stay some days.

Webster's Bible Translation
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they requested him to tarry certain days.

Young's ...[text shortened]... in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to remain some days.

What did Jesus say? [/b]
The point, which you are so deliberately missing, is that no one, ever, never, not once, in the entire NT, baptised anyone, in the titles of Father, son and Holy Spirit. They are titles not a single "name".

Let me include some "emphasis" to help explain the point here:

Jesus speaks: right disciple dudes, listen up. I want you to preach the word and baptise people in the name of the person you believe to be the earthly representation of the Father, son and holy spirit.

Disciples speak: OK guv we got it. That's you. No probs were on it.

Can you see it Ron?

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Originally posted by divegeester
The point, which you are so deliberately missing, is that no one, ever, never, not once, in the entire NT, baptised anyone, in the titles of Father, son and Holy Spirit. They are titles not a single "name".

Let me include some "emphasis" to help explain the point here:

Jesus speaks: right disciple dudes, listen up. I want you to preach the word an ...[text shortened]...

Disciples speak: OK guv we got it. That's you. No probs were on it.

Can you see it Ron?
But we are not restricted to baptizing in the name of the Son only. We can also baptize is the name of the Holy Spirit or the name of the Father ot the name of the Lord, or the name of Christ, or the name of Yahshua, or the name of Yah, or the name of the triune God. Do you see that? 😏

HalleluYaH !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
But we are not restricted to baptizing in the name of the Son only. We can also baptize is the name of the Holy Spirit or the name of the Father ot the name of the Lord, or the name of Christ, or the name of Yahshua, or the name of Yah, or the name of the triune God. Do you see that? 😏

HalleluYaH !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
I see you writing it, but it is not in scripture. What I'm trying to show you is in scripture.

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Originally posted by divegeester
I see you writing it, but it is not in scripture. What I'm trying to show you is in scripture.
You did not show me scripture that says baptize in the name "Jesus" ONLY.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You did not show me scripture that says baptize in the name "Jesus" [b]ONLY.[/b]
Show ME scientific evidence that baptizing does ANYTHING besides making people wet.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Show ME scientific evidence that baptizing does ANYTHING besides making people wet.
We are not taking about scientific evidence here. We are talking of the spiritual significance of water baptism. The going down under the water demonstrates our desire to bury all our sins with Christ at His death. Coming up out of the water signifies our desire to walk a new life free of sin in Christ Jesus.

HalleluYaH !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
We are not taking about scientific evidence here. We are talking of the spiritual significance of water baptism. The going down under the water demonstrates our desire to bury all our sins with Christ at His death. Coming up out of the water signifies our desire to walk a new life free of sin in Christ Jesus.

HalleluYaH !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
In other words, a placebo.

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