Originally posted by BigDoggProblemhence the onus is on you theists to prove it. for about the 4th time i introduce the flying spaghetti monster. you may not believe it exists and therefore the onus is on me to prove it does. me ranting about it day after day changes nothing. like you and your mythical god.
The problem is that deductive reasoning is of limited use in comprehending the metaphysical. You're bound to be disappointed if you expect deduction to solve much here. God, or lack of god, can't be proven, so we all must resort to arguing that one or the other is more likely to be the case.
Originally posted by RolfeyNow, now, the poop pile is big enough, we're going to need mechanized equipment to move the load of crap you've throwing about.
hence the onus is on you theists to prove it. for about the 4th time i introduce the flying spaghetti monster. you may not believe it exists and therefore the onus is on me to prove it does. me ranting about it day after day changes nothing. like you and your mythical god.
The rules to a productive exploration of human spirituality:
1. Bring an open mind or piss off.
2. No derogatory comments about the religion of others.
3. No blithering dogma.
The ultimate goal is to help people get in touch with their spiritual side. You can define this as God or the sense of inner peace that one can achieve from complete enlightenment.
How about it, can you do it? You've beaten away at each other long enough don't you think?
Originally posted by Hand of HecateIf posts were eliminated that violated rules 1 2 or 3.The forums would be pretty barren.
Now, now, the poop pile is big enough, we're going to need mechanized equipment to move the load of crap you've throwing about.
The rules to a productive exploration of human spirituality:
1. Bring an open mind or piss off.
2. No derogatory comments about the religion of others.
3. No blithering dogma.
The ultimate goal is to help people get ...[text shortened]...
How about it, can you do it? You've beaten away at each other long enough don't you think?
You are right though, I think, about all your points.Spirtuality implies
tolerance of others and their ideas.No matter how diverse the ideas or the people are from you.
If a "man of God' resorts to name calling and reciting basically meaningless dogmatic verses,it seems to loose credibilty.
I also liked the analogy of monkey turd fights to the forums. 😀
Originally posted by Hand of HecateDid you lose a bet? You're about as concillatory as Sweden right now, and it's beginning to scare everyone. Please, resume your cornered-animal-stance as quickly as possible. You're embarassing yourself.
Now, now, the poop pile is big enough, we're going to need mechanized equipment to move the load of crap you've throwing about.
The rules to a productive exploration of human spirituality:
1. Bring an open mind or piss off.
2. No derogatory comments about the religion of others.
3. No blithering dogma.
The ultimate goal is to help people get ...[text shortened]...
How about it, can you do it? You've beaten away at each other long enough don't you think?
Originally posted by aspviper666the stars do twinkle in your eyes my sugar sweet, however a 'man of God' is still just a human. just like you my dear. put beyond one's limits any human is capable of most anything. at the same time you are correct it is important to look at why it happens to people like your good friend RB.
If posts were eliminated that violated rules 1 2 or 3.The forums would be pretty barren.
You are right though, I think, about all your points.Spirtuality implies
tolerance of others and their ideas.No matter how diverse the ideas or the people are from you.
If a "man of God' resorts to name calling and reciting basically meaningless dogmatic verses,it seems to loose credibilty.
I also liked the analogy of monkey turd fights to the forums. 😀
Originally posted by KaboooombaYou are right Sheila.
the stars do twinkle in your eyes my sugar sweet, however a 'man of God' is still just a human. just like you my dear. put beyond one's limits any human is capable of most anything. at the same time you are correct it is important to look at why it happens to people like your good friend RB.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblembecause of the vast amount of brainwashing that happens to children due to religous upbringing. teaching people nonsense from a young age and then not really being able to prove it strikes me as an offence against human rights.
Funny you should say that in response to my post. My post claims that it can't be proven. Given that, why should the theist waste his or her time trying to do so?
Originally posted by RolfeyNow I think you're overreacting. Children don't start out as independent thinkers, so they will naturally emulate their parents' belief systems until they are old enough to start questioning things on their own.
because of the vast amount of brainwashing that happens to children due to religous upbringing. teaching people nonsense from a young age and then not really being able to prove it strikes me as an offence against human rights.