Originally posted by josephwThere is honest argument and there is dishonest argument.
I'm saying this as politely and as kindly as I can.
Much of what you say is good and healthy both physically and spiritually, but you are wrong in the aggregate.(my belief)
This is a debate forum. It's for debating. But you insist on lecturing. You must find a way to make your case and provide proofs and irrefutable logic and reason to back it up.
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Above all else, find the humor embedded in this forum. You'll find peace in it.
It is impossible to debate truth because it is truth.
Do you debate that the sun is hot?
Truth can be discussed to gain higher understanding - but never argued.
Originally posted by DasaDo you understand what circular arguments are, Dasa? It seems you don't. Using them impairs your ability to communicate.
There is honest argument and there is dishonest argument.
It is impossible to debate truth because it is truth.
Do you debate that the sun is hot?
Truth can be discussed to gain higher understanding - but never argued.
Originally posted by Dasa"There is honest argument and there is dishonest argument."
There is honest argument and there is dishonest argument.
It is impossible to debate truth because it is truth.
Do you debate that the sun is hot?
Truth can be discussed to gain higher understanding - but never argued.
Okay fine, but so what? Make your argument! I'll make mine.
"It is impossible to debate truth because it is truth."
That's debatable. LOL (do you see the obvious humor of that?)
"Do you debate that the sun is hot?"
Hot to us because if we got too close we'd fry. But hot relative to what? Another star which may be hotter still? See what I'm saying? It's a debate.
"Truth can be discussed to gain higher understanding - but never argued."
I know what you mean. But you see dasa, we don't agree about every truth. Therefor, we must debate, and sometimes argue our case with proofs and logic and reason. That's why we're here.
As an aside, FMF has his own way. He doesn't really offer a subscription for any particular truth, but he will pick you apart if you let him. He does it to me. I get stronger when he does. Maybe FMF feels the same way about me. Probably not.
Originally posted by josephwI tend to confront religionists who use circular arguments to make assertions about me and my spirituality. I don't try to lecture you or superimpose my belief system onto you because I am not a religionist.
As an aside, FMF has his own way. He doesn't really offer a subscription for any particular truth, but he will pick you apart if you let him. He does it to me. I get stronger when he does. Maybe FMF feels the same way about me. Probably not.
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Originally posted by ChessPraxisIndeed, neighbor. Indeed.
(banging head into wall)
*joins chesspraxis in banging head against wall*
No person, no ideology, has a complete monopoly on truth. For Dasa to indirectly claim as much, is an undeniable sign of supreme arrogance to the point of grandiose delusion. And possibly beyond. It treads upon dangerous. It's the kind of uber-closed-minded thinking, akin to that of an Islamic fundamentalist jihadist.