26 Feb 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'm guessing she also didn't come here to be preached at.
Originally posted by Duchess64
[b]If I decided to become a Christian, then I would study some of these
philosophers and then hope to arrive at a set of beliefs that's much more
detailed than the simplistic, 'I just believe in Jesus as my Lord and Saviour.'
You're not alone, Duchess64; over the centuries, many have rejected God's Reconci ...[text shortened]... Bible doctrine], because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Cor. 2:14) Please read C.S. Lewis.[/b]
26 Feb 14
Originally posted by JS357Yes. I, for one, never heard of the rapture until I had already been Christian for a few years. I also do not happen to believe in the "pre-Tribulation" rapture. I'll have to check, but I do not happen to know offhand if my church officially adds it as an article of their faith. Hmmmm. Now I'll have to go find out.
The rapture. Hmmm. I wonder if one's belief about the rapture is an essential aspect of "faith in Christ." IOW, the simple statement that faith in CHrist is the only essential, is suspect, especially since in another thread you said faith in salvation only through Christ is only the beginning.
The term "Rapture" is used in at least two senses. In the pr ...[text shortened]... rapture" in referring to what happens during the final resurrection. (From the dread wikipedia.)
26 Feb 14
The post that was quoted here has been removedJust that one point IS a good starting point, though. That's how I started out. Then I learned more.
It seems almost ALL Christians want to push 'their' Christianity as the "only correct road" to God. There may be no "package deal" that represents all your beliefs, and finding "the best fit" may take awhile. Just consider it a journey. An adventure.
26 Feb 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhy do you have to do this?
" How long will GrampyBobby keep harassing me when I have
made it clear enough that I have no interest in communicating with him?"
Duchess64, out of curiosity to whom do you refer?
Postscript: Here's an interesting observation: "Nobody talks so constantly
about God as those who insist that there is no God." Heywood Broun
Note: "Players" Tabl ...[text shortened]... one entry: "grampybobby Rating (p 1200)
Last moved 808 days 2 hours and 23 minutes ago". Him?
I notice you did not address any of her complaints.
Originally posted by Suzianne
Says you.
I happen to think he was right on in what he said.
Originally posted by CalJust
Hi Duchess,
"I can sense the frustration that you must feel with the answers you have received so far. Despite their protestations to the contrary "it doesn't really matter what group you follow, as long as you believe in Christ as your Saviour" I can assure you that each member of RHP's Fundamentalist Club would like to recruit you and your friend into their specific group.
Given the tensions between Protestants and Catholics, I can well imagine that your friend could simply be undecided as to where to hitch her wagon. She would have to feel strongly either way before she can make a choice, and it is not unreasonable to think that she doesn't. At least, not yet.
If she HAS made a choice, but is unwilling to share it, that is another, but also totally understandable, matter.
Your point seems to be that, given all the various packages and doctrines, you cannot understand how somebody accepts a certain "label" without it being a total "package deal". Well, that is entirely possible, since I belong to a group that mixes freely with many others (Roman Catholic included) without accepting all their funny ways.
Aside to RJH and GB: I even accept the YEC'ers in our midst, since they are not nearly so militant and aggressive as you bunch!"
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"I can assure you that each member of RHP's Fundamentalist Club would like to recruit you and your friend into their specific group." -CJ
.... minus 1.
Originally posted by Suzianne
Says you.
I happen to think he was right on in what he said.
Why would you possibly endorse becoming a "member of RHP's Fundamentalist Club"?
26 Feb 14
The post that was quoted here has been removedI think both people should carefully take everyone their decision will affect into consideration (themselves, their children, their relatives). It is a decision not to enter into lightly, and there remains the possibility of a changed mind later. It has ended in divorce for some. Others can make the adjustment. It's a highly individual decision, best left to themselves alone. Others really don't, or shouldn't, have a say.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhat? Where did I say that? I think you can gather from context that I'm NOT part of that club, and furthermore that I would not wish to be. Similarly, I would not "endorse" it for anyone else, either. I simply agree with what CalJust said (his bolded comment above, and that you quoted earlier, not his entire post), and not on any 'spin' you wish to apply to it.
[quote]Originally posted by CalJust
Hi Duchess,
"I can sense the frustration that you must feel with the answers you have received so far. Despite their protestations to the contrary "it doesn't really matter what group you follow, as long as you believe in Christ as your Saviour" [b]I can assure you that each member of RHP's Fundamentalist ...[text shortened]... he said.
Why would you possibly endorse becoming a "member of RHP's Fundamentalist Club"?[/b]
Perhaps I misinterpreted your "minus 1" comment. Perhaps you were actually denying membership in that club and not "rating" his comment, which is what I initially thought the "minus 1" was about.