28 May 09
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesSo if you met someone who swewed green bile on you and began to levitate off the floor, who would you go to for help I wonder? A doctor or a priest? 😛
In an astounding display of charlatanism, the Catholic church, to this very day, still performs several hundred exorcisms per year. How sad is it that in 2009, people are still attributing symptoms of mental illness to actual demons that can be ritualized away!
That got me to thinking...
Do demons only infest Catholics, or might Muslims get in ...[text shortened]... iest?
Do Catholic priests refuse the rite of Exorcism to non-Catholics, as they do Communion?
28 May 09
Originally posted by sumydid'my voice is f***in powerful', YEEAAH! but seriously do u even dare to fathom the depth and pwer of the dark side?
I've never known anyone who showed unmistakable signs of actual demon-possession.
But when you boil it all down, to say demons don't exist is to also say Jesus was a fraud and a liar.
28 May 09
Originally posted by sumydidjesus was a beacon of truth and the son of god. god being all powerful ,ominpotent, containing EVERYTHING, right? So to truly understand god we must understand its "dark" nature as well. I know this is a distressing issue to many but trust me when i say - you are only limited by your own fears
Case in point. Jesus was obviously a beacon of truth.
28 May 09
Originally posted by generalissimoDid I make any false claims about Catholics?
Islam?!
he was also hammering catholics, don't you think that is equally ignorant?
Did I make any claims at all about Muslims?
If you are criticizing for being ignorant merely because I am asking questions, I have to wonder how you think one goes from being ignorant to being educated without asking questions. For example, if somebody could simply tell me whether Catholic priests would refuse to exorcise a demon from a possessed Muslim, I would no longer be ignorant on the matter, now would I?
28 May 09
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesjust cut the crap, "display of charlatanism" is not a question, it is a jugdment based solely on ignorance and prejudice.
Did I make any false claims about Catholics?
Did I make any claims at all about Muslims?
If you are criticizing for being ignorant merely because I am asking questions, I have to wonder how you think one goes from being ignorant to being educated without asking questions. For example, if somebody could simply tell me whether Catholic priests w ...[text shortened]... rcise a demon from a possessed Muslim, I would no longer be ignorant on the matter, now would I?
28 May 09
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Originally posted by generalissimoFalse. It is an informed judgment based on the fact that actual demons do not exist.
just cut the crap, "display of charlatanism" is not a question, it is a jugdment based solely on ignorance and prejudice.
If you contend that demons do actually exist, then you are committed to explaining why those demons only infest Catholics, why Muslims don't get possessed by demons, and why Muslim imams don't perform exorcisms. Have you ever heard of an atheist or a humanist being possessed by a demon?
28 May 09
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesan excellent point Doc, Is it only people that the catholic church performs exorcisms on, or do they do it to places as well, that they suspect of being demon possessed?
False. It is an informed judgment based on the fact that actual demons do not exist.
If you contend that demons do actually exist, then you are committed to explaining why those demons only infest Catholics, why Muslims don't get possessed by demons, and why Muslim imams don't perform exorcisms. Have you ever heard of an atheist or a humanist being possessed by a demon?
28 May 09
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesSome Muslims believe in jinn possession. Jinn are somewhat different from demons in that they may be saved or damned according to their acts ... For a jinn to possess a human being is a sin. Jinn possession can be cured via ruqya, it is said.
False. It is an informed judgment based on the fact that actual demons do not exist.
If you contend that demons do actually exist, then you are committed to explaining why those demons only infest Catholics, why Muslims don't get possessed by demons, and why Muslim imams don't perform exorcisms. Have you ever heard of an atheist or a humanist being possessed by a demon?
For secular cases of possession, I think scientology has it all. Of course, in secular psychology, the demons go underground to resurface as neuroses, psychoses, and germs... Or the guy shaking bugs from his hair in A Scanner Darkly.
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageBut do jinni actually exist, and if so, could and would a Catholic priest exorcise them?
Some Muslims believe in jinn possession. Jinn are somewhat different from demons in that they may be saved or damned according to their acts ... For a jinn to possess a human being is a sin. Jinn possession can be cured via ruqya, it is said.