25 Jul 06
Originally posted by frogstompJericho and Ai are only the begining.
These Crimes
1. Conspiracy to commit crimes against peace
2. Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression
3. War-Crimes
4. Crimes against humanity
Then comes: Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites, the people of Makkedah, the Libnahites , the people of Lachish, the Eglonites, the Hebronites and the Debirites.
Oh and I almost missed this one:
Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim
25 Jul 06
Originally posted by frogstompJos 9:3 And when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done unto Jericho and to Ai,
Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites...
Jos 9:4 They did work wilily, and went and made as if they had been ambassadors, and took old sacks upon their asses, and wine bottles, old, and rent, and bound up;
Jos 9:5 And old shoes and clouted upon their feet, and old garments upon them; and all the bread of their provision was dry and moldy.
Jos 9:6 And they went to Joshua unto the camp at Gilgal, and said unto him, and to the men of Israel, We be come from a far country: now therefore make ye a league with us.
Jos 9:7 And the men of Israel said unto the Hivites, Peradventure ye dwell among us; and how shall we make a league with you?
Jos 9:8 And they said unto Joshua, We are thy servants. And Joshua said unto them, Who are ye? and from whence come ye?
Jos 9:9 And they said unto him, From a very far country thy servants are come because of the name of the LORD thy God: for we have heard the fame of him, and all that he did in Egypt,
Jos 9:10 And all that he did to the two kings of the Amorites, that were beyond Jordan, to Sihon king of Heshbon, and to Og king of Bashan, which was at Ashtaroth.
Jos 9:11 Wherefore our elders and all the inhabitants of our country spoke to us, saying, Take victuals with you for the journey, and go to meet them, and say unto them, We are your servants: therefore now make ye a league with us.
Jos 9:12 This our bread we took hot for our provision out of our houses on the day we came forth to go unto you; but now, behold, it is dry, and it is moldy:
Jos 9:13 And these bottles of wine, which we filled, were new; and, behold, they be rent: and these our garments and our shoes are become old by reason of the very long journey.
Jos 9:14 And the men took of their victuals, and asked not counsel at the mouth of the LORD.
Jos 9:15 And Joshua made peace with them, and made a league with them, to let them live: and the princes of the congregation swore unto them.
Jos 9:16 And it came to pass at the end of three days after they had made a league with them, that they heard that they were their neighbors, and that they dwelt among them.
Jos 9:17 And the children of Israel journeyed, and came unto their cities on the third day. Now their cities were Gibeon, and Chephirah, and Beeroth, and Kirjath-jearim.
Jos 9:18 And the children of Israel smote them not, because the princes of the congregation had sworn unto them by the LORD God of Israel. And all the congregation murmured against the princes.
Jos 9:19 But all the princes said unto all the congregation, We have sworn unto them by the LORD God of Israel: now therefore we may not touch them.
Jos 9:20 This we will do to them; we will even let them live, lest wrath be upon us, because of the oath which we swore unto them.
Jos 9:21 And the princes said unto them, Let them live; but let them be hewers of wood and drawers of water unto all the congregation; as the princes had promised them.
Jos 9:22 And Joshua called for them, and he spoke unto them, saying, Wherefore have ye beguiled us, saying, We are very far from you; when ye dwell among us?
Jos 9:23 Now therefore ye are cursed, and there shall none of you be freed from being bondmen, and hewers of wood and drawers of water for the house of my God.
Jos 9:24 And they answered Joshua, and said, Because it was certainly told thy servants, how that the LORD thy God commanded his servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you, therefore we were sore afraid of our lives because of you, and have done this thing.
Jos 9:25 And now, behold, we are in thine hand: as it seemeth good and right unto thee to do unto us, do.
Jos 9:26 And so did he unto them, and delivered them out of the hand of the children of Israel, that they slew them not.
25 Jul 06
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Originally posted by HalitoseOk so Joshua enslaved them , I remind you:
Jos 9:3 And when the [b]inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done unto Jericho and to Ai,
Jos 9:4 They did work wilily, and went and made as if they had been ambassadors, and took old sacks upon their asses, and wine bottles, old, and rent, and bound up;
Jos 9:5 And old shoes and clouted upon their feet, and old garments upon them; and all ...[text shortened]... m, and delivered them out of the hand of the children of Israel, that they slew them not.[/b]
CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.
Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit any of the foregoing crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any persons in execution of such plan.
Oh btw that's from Nuremburg
25 Jul 06
Originally posted by frogstompOk so Joshua enslaved them...
Ok so Joshua enslaved them , I remind you:
CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of ...[text shortened]... l acts performed by any persons in execution of such plan.
Oh btw that's from Nuremburg
Well done. 😀
Too bad they didn't have the Nuremburg Trials earlier, huh? 😛
26 Jul 06
Originally posted by frogstompWithout looking at the text you would use to charge him, I'd say
These Crimes
1. Conspiracy to commit crimes against peace
2. Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression
3. War-Crimes
4. Crimes against humanity
no he didn't commit any crimes. Of course that depends on who
is the judge too, if you look at the current Mideast conflict depending
on who is the judge you have criminals and heroes, and if you go
to the other side, the players hold different roles in the way they
fall out as criminals and heroes.
Kelly
26 Jul 06
Originally posted by KellyJaywithout looking at the text is a bit like jumping off a diving board without checking to see if there's any water in the pool, isn't it?
Without looking at the text you would use to charge him, I'd say
no he didn't commit any crimes. Of course that depends on who
is the judge too, if you look at the current Mideast conflict depending
on who is the judge you have criminals and heroes, and if you go
to the other side, the players hold different roles in the way they
fall out as criminals and heroes.
Kelly
Any impartial judge.
26 Jul 06
Originally posted by frogstompSmuck, smuck, smuck. Now that I've accomplished that, I must remind you that your 'threads' are nothing more than lunatic rantings of a disenfranchised mind, thinly veiled pseudo-academia desperately wanting to be a real boy.
Go smuck yourself you idiot and stop messing with my threads.
As much as you want to see otherwise, the conspiracy is on the other side.
26 Jul 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHNothing to offer but stale insults again. You can do better than trolling here. Open up another revelatory thread or something. Some contrast. This forum lacks texture.
Smuck, smuck, smuck. Now that I've accomplished that, I must remind you that your 'threads' are nothing more than lunatic rantings of a disenfranchised mind, thinly veiled pseudo-academia desperately wanting to be a real boy.
As much as you want to see otherwise, the conspiracy is on the other side.