Do your religious beliefs 'liberate' you?

Originally posted by @fmf
It would affect how we would vote on the matter given the opportunity to do so.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If morality is subjective and only applies to individuals, with everyone entitled to their own opinion, it wouldn’t really matter what anyone voted. It would only really matter if there were an objective standard and people were voting against this standard.

Originally posted by @fmf
To me it does "matter" whether or not there are laws to tackle behaviours with a moral dimension and so it matters which legislators are voted into office. Many of your questions make you sound like a child.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If as you say morality is purely subjective and everyone is entitled to their opinions, it wouldn't really matter if the laws of the country reflected someone else's opinions that were contradictory to yours. If however you believed that your moral opinions were correct and the other opinions were wrong then it would really matter.

Originally posted by @fmf
You sound like a teenager who has never thought about this topic and who has never thought about how and why adults vote according to their consciences in elections and referenda. If you want to talk to me, act your age. Otherwise, go and troll other people.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If morality is purely subjective as you say it would be equivalent to people voting about which color they like most. Totally meaningless.

Originally posted by @fmf
I have been talking about people voting about laws pertaining to moral issues not colours. I have been talking about conscience and morality. You have been trolling. No need to address me on these matters anymore. If I think you've grown up a bit, I will re-engage.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
What you don't seem to get into your head is the fact that if morals are purely subjective there is no universally correct answer to a moral question. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Asking the question "Is abortion right or wrong? " would be equivalent to asking "Is the color pink better than the color blue?" There is no universally correct an ...[text shortened]... . Everyone is right no matter what they say. Ponder upon that, maybe it will sink in eventually.

dj2becker, perhaps I need to reiterate my views and explain them again. Is that what you want me to do?

Originally posted by @fmf
For my stance on what you tout as being "universally correct answers" to moral questions, I refer you to the discussions we had throughout 2016 and 2017 during which I wrote stuff that you appear to have either not read or simply did not have the capacity to understand. I get that you don't agree, but the constant pretending that you haven't read or understood anything just comes across trolling.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Revert to ad hominems when you can't handle an argument. Nothing new there.

Originally posted by @fmf
We can just agree to disagree about your intellectual behaviour. You are free to describe my complaint as an 'ad hominem' if you want. People can make what they will of it.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You are also obviously free to do as you please since morality is subjective as you say and your own moral preferences aren’t objectively better than anyone else’s just like the color blue isn’t objectively better than green. It’s all just one big subjective mess.

Originally posted by @fmf
Like I said, we can just agree to disagree about your intellectual behaviour ~ like your tedious umpteenth mischaracterization of my views above, and your repetition of your colours-morals analogy. And we can also just agree to disagree about your views on the "subjectivity", "universality", "absolutism" as they apply to morality.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Indeed as you could agree to disagree with Hitler and Pol Pot about their moral actions. You could agree to disagree on every single moral issue for that matter since there is no single correct answer to a moral question. It's free for all.