Does a soul feel pain ?

Originally posted by KellyJay
This makes a lot of sense to me, seeing that I believe the great
pain will be seeing God for who God really is, and the reality of it
all, side by side with the choices made in this life time. The fantasy
that cloaked this universe will be dispelled by the Light of God,
the Truth and Life will be seen, and those that rejected it will get
what they want ...[text shortened]... ledge of how they kept the truth from showing up in their
lives and the lives of others.
Kelly

Your post is very mixed. It implies that the truth is hidden from us and will be revealed at some future time. However we are expected to make a choice now without knowing the truth. And how are we keeping the truth from showing up if it is hidden from us ?
And no-one has yet answered the question of whether Hell is punishment, rehabilitation or just bad luck.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Your post is very mixed. It implies that the truth is hidden from us and will be revealed at some future time. However we are expected to make a choice now without knowing the truth. And how are we keeping the truth from showing up if it is hidden from us ?
And no-one has yet answered the question of whether Hell is punishment, rehabilitation or just bad luck.

Truth is not hidden from us, outside of seeing God Himself. That is
why judgment day isn't going to be a good thing for people. We know
when we are doing wrong, we create excuses for it even now, we see
the same reality, but we color it attempting to make it suit ourselves
verses the way it really is. Reality, and how we should act is not a
mystery, the lenghts we will go to avoid it, will be on display.

Look at what Jesus and scriptures taught, basically we are to live in
reality keeping love central as a guide.

Lying was forbidden, why, because lying colors the universe in
falseness.

With stealing that takes away from someone that which really belongs
to him.

Putting God in the proper place of respect, putting others in the proper
place of respect and love is to acknowledge the importance of each as
they are within the universe. We give respect to authority here now so
we know it should be done. With people that is to not showing
partiality because of wealth, but love each person without regard to
their status among us.

Paying people what we owe them when it is within our power to do so,
is just living your life as it should be lived.

Jesus lived a holy life for years before he was revealed to be who
he was. All that meant was, he always did what was right.

Nothing hard to understand really, keep it all real, we are going to be
held accountable for our lives. So being real, being authentic is
paramount, so we shouldn’t become boastful, but humble, we
shouldn’t fill ourselves up with pride to where we think we are more
than we are. It is all basically, be real, and care for one another.

Isaiah 6:5
"Woe to me!" I cried. "I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips,
and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen
the King, the LORD Almighty."


God revealed, automatically displays truth, it takes away all that is
false, from the serpents first lie where God intent was questioned for
man, to all of our dealings with God and each other.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Nothing hard to understand really, keep it all real, we are going to be
held accountable for our lives.

I take it that you disagree with the view of some others on this site that we are all sinners and all that really matters is whether we are saved or not. That we have some inherent sin that we cannot avoid and therefore trying not to sin is really a waste of time.
In fact some statements in the new testament clearly imply that we will not be held accountable so long as we repent before we die and declare Jesus as our saviour.

Originally posted by twhitehead
I take it that you disagree with the view of some others on this site that we are all sinners and all that really matters is whether we are saved or not. That we have some inherent sin that we cannot avoid and therefore trying not to sin is really a waste of time.
In fact some statements in the new testament clearly imply that we will [b]not be held accountable so long as we repent before we die and declare Jesus as our saviour.[/b]

No not at all, I do believe we are all sinners. Our righteousness is
as filthy rags before God, that is our righteousness, us at our best.
As we compare ourselves to ourselves we may not appear to be so
bad, but compared to God again we will see things for what they are
in truth not with the blinders we have fashioned for ourselves to
view the universe with. We need to be saved; we will not be able to
stand before God in our own righteousness. Being saved is not just
getting cleaned, but it is getting restored to God, our lives become
new. We become as the word teaches born again, our lives as we
grow in God will start taking on the nature of God where sin has
less an appeal to us. As we invite God into our lives we become a
living temple for the living God, there is a lot more going on to
salvation than just being forgiven.
Kelly

Originally posted by twhitehead
If as we are lead to believe by most Christians, Hell is a large fire into which many of our souls will go, then how does it hurt. If we have left our bodies behind is there a new body with special pain receptors just so that we can be endlessly tortured ? What is the purpose of this anyway ? Revenge ? Rehabilitation ? What does the Devil get out of it ?

If we have left our bodies behind...

Christians don't say we've left our bodies behind. "Resurrection of the Body" - remember?

Originally posted by KellyJay
No not at all, I do believe we are all sinners. Our righteousness is
as filthy rags before God, that is our righteousness, us at our best.
As we compare ourselves to ourselves we may not appear to be so
bad, but compared to God again we will see things for what they are
in truth not with the blinders we have fashioned for ourselves to
view the universe ...[text shortened]... for the living God, there is a lot more going on to
salvation than just being forgiven.
Kelly

That's one of the best posts I've read on here all week.