Originally posted by whodeyActually if he has seen the future, he can not change it and therefore god wouldn't have the luxury of thinking he has freewill.
True, however, if he has seen the future and knows he will not sin then is he still capable? Another possiblity is that these events have already happened because God is omnipotent to move forward and backward in time. Perhaps telling us he is incapable of sin is like giving us a history lesson in reverse.
Originally posted by whodeyGod doesn't see the future. He isn't a guy on the moon pointing at things and making them happen. He exists outside of time. He is constant and unchanging.
[b]True, however, if he has seen the future and knows he will not sin then is he still capable? Another possiblity is that these events have already happened because God is omnipotent to move forward and backward in time. Perhaps telling us he is incapable of sin is like giving us a history lesson in reverse.
Originally posted by HalitoseHowever, knowing the future would negate having free will. And worse, it would also negate your thinking you did have it.
I don't see how this would negate free will. Being all powerful, God is capable of doing everything -- which He obviously isn't (doing everything logically possible) -- ergo, He is exercising choice.
Originally posted by NordlysThis arguement stems from the assumption that there is a Christian God and the Bible is accurate. If so, then Christ, who came as God, died for our sins. He was guiltless because he had no sin and therefore was an acceptable sacrifice. Christ was referred to God's word incarnate. In other words, God's word became flesh in the form of Christ. Therefore, if Christ is guiltless, then so is the Word he represents. This includes all past and future oreinted words written in the Bible.
Yes. So what? It would just be one more sin.
Originally posted by frogstompWhat about before creation? He could have made these choices before it all happened. Then once he made the decision, it was caste in stone, so to speak.
Actually if he has seen the future, he can not change it and therefore god wouldn't have the luxury of thinking he has freewill.