Does the Earth really rotate?

Originally posted by googlefudge
So you do think that the earth is flat and motionless.

No, I am not saying that. What I am saying is I believe the Holy Bilbe presents the truth, but many times man leans to his own understand and is wrong. At this point in time I believe what the scientist say about the Earth spinning while moving around the sun in a "fixed" orbit.

Some have interpreted the verses you quoted as meaning that Earth is fixed on a foundational orbit by God and can not be moved from it by anyone other than God. That is, God established a fixed orbit for the Earth and it can not be moved from that orbit. That sounds like a good enough explanation to me. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! 😏

Originally posted by googlefudge
So you do think that the earth is flat and motionless.

No, that is his brain.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No, I am not saying that. What I am saying is I believe the Holy Bilbe presents the truth, but many times man leans to his own understand and is wrong. At this point in time I believe what the scientist say about the Earth spinning while moving around the sun in a [b]"fixed" orbit.

Some have interpreted the verses you quoted as meaning that Earth ...[text shortened]... rbit. That sounds like a good enough explanation to me. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! 😏[/b]

The Earth is not in a 'Fixed' orbit by any possible definition of the word fixed.

The number of different ways that the Earth's orbit (and rotation) is constantly shifting...

Day length is constantly (albeit minutely) changing.

Both the axis of rotation and the magnetic poles move.

The ellipsisity of the Earth's orbit varies.

The moon is edging farther and farther away.

And the Earth's entire orbit is and will be shifted over time as it is effected by the gravitation
of other planets and rocky bodies and is acted on by solar radiation and solar tides.


It is not fixed.

Originally posted by googlefudge
The Earth is not in a [b]'Fixed' orbit by any possible definition of the word fixed.

The number of different ways that the Earth's orbit (and rotation) is constantly shifting...

Day length is constantly (albeit minutely) changing.

Both the axis of rotation and the magnetic poles move.

The ellipsisity of the Earth's orbit varies.

The mo and rocky bodies and is acted on by solar radiation and solar tides.


It is not fixed.[/b]

This is what science is teaching:

The movement of the Earth around the Sun in a fixed orbit is called as revolving.

http://www.kidport.com/reflib/science/Space/Earth.htm

What scientifc evidence do you have that they are teaching falsely?

P.S. That is on this matter. I know they are teaching falsely about evolution and the age of the Earth.

Originally posted by RJHinds
This is what science is teaching:

The movement of the Earth around the Sun in a fixed orbit is called as revolving.

http://www.kidport.com/reflib/science/Space/Earth.htm

What scientifc evidence do you have that they are teaching falsely?

P.S. That is on this matter. I know they are teaching falsely about evolution and the age of the Earth.

So you are saying 'if they are teaching evolution falsely, it must also be false that the Earth revolves around the sun'?

Originally posted by sonhouse
So you are saying 'if they are teaching evolution falsely, it must also be false that the Earth revolves around the sun'?

You can't understand the simplest of statements. I was simply asking for a reference from a science authority that states that the Earth does not have a fixed orbit like they are teaching the kids in the reference I gave. This is what googlefudge claims, "The Earth's orbit is not fixed and the Earth is not fixed in an orbit around the Sun." (Not an exact quote).

Originally posted by RJHinds
You can't understand the simplest of statements. I was simply asking for a reference from a science authority that states that the Earth does not have a fixed orbit like they are teaching the kids in the reference I gave. This is what googlefudge claims, "The Earth's orbit is not fixed and the Earth is not fixed in an orbit around the Sun." (Not an exact quote).

Exactly what is wrong with that statement? The only thing wrong with it is looking at the bigger picture. The actual orbit of the Earth is a giant corkscrew threading its way through the galaxy since the entire solar system is moving at around 200 miles per second, everything in it at exactly that pace, moving as a unit through the galaxy so if you plot the orbit of the Earth, it describes a corkscrew path through space, actually a triple corkscrew since the entire solar system is revolving around the center of the Milky way galaxy so it is corkscrews mixed inside corkscrews since the entire galaxy is moving towards the local galactic cluster.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Exactly what is wrong with that statement?

If true, it disagrees with the other website teaching science to kids that states that the earth is in a fixed orbit around the sun and that is known as revolving.

Originally posted by RJHinds
If true, it disagrees with the other website teaching scienc to kids that states that the earth is in a fixed orbit around the sun and that is known as revolving.

Read my whole post behind yours.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Read my whole post behind yours.

I still don't see any scientific reference answering my question.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I still don't see any scientific reference answering my question.

I'm not sure what your question is. Please clarify that.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I'm not sure what your question is. Please clarify that.

This is what science is teaching kids:

The movement of the Earth around the Sun in a fixed orbit is known as revolving.

http://www.kidport.com/reflib/science/Space/Earth.htm

What scientifc evidence do you have that they are teaching falsely?

Is it a fixed orbit or not?

Originally posted by RJHinds
I still don't see any scientific reference answering my question.

Do you disagree that the sun is moving around the galaxy? Do you disagree that the gravity of other planets affects earth? If you don't dispute the above, then you can hardly dispute what is being said. If you do dispute the above, then you don't need 'scientific references' you need to go back to school and start again from the beginning.

Originally posted by RJHinds
This is what science is teaching kids:

The movement of the Earth around the Sun in a fixed orbit is known as revolving.

http://www.kidport.com/reflib/science/Space/Earth.htm

What scientifc evidence do you have that they are teaching falsely?

Is it a fixed orbit or not?

You can't accept my answer that it is not 'fixed' exactly? Not sure what you mean by fixed, because the whole solar system is in flux, orbitally speaking, for instance, asteroids are roaming around the solar system and depending on the vagaries of what planet it happens to pass by, will have its orbit changed, the most recent example was just a few weeks ago when a small asteroid passed between the moon and Earth. It cannot help but to have had its orbit modified by that passage, being somewhat deflected by Earth's gravity.

If by "Fixed" you mean the orbits of the planets don't change, that is wrong but for a kid's science show, the first thing to learn is the general state of the Earth as it orbits around the sun, it would be unwise to try to explain to an 8 year old all the corkscrew paths the Earth and the entire solar system takes through the galaxy so the first order of business is to treat the orbit of the earth around the sun alone, ignoring secondary effects. In that regard, the orbit of the Earth around the sun is 'fixed' in place.

If you believe the solar system resides inside a galaxy, why would you need some kind of wiki reference to see that the whole solar system orbits inside that galaxy, in our case to the tune of about 200 million years per one galactic orbit?

And further, that the entire galaxy is flying through space as one unit, towards a very distant galactic cluster.

And further, that the entire local galactic cluster is itself flying towards another giant conglomeration of super clusters.

Is anything to be gained to try to stuff all that into an 8 year old trying to understand how the earth orbits around the sun?

Originally posted by sonhouse
You can't accept my answer that it is not 'fixed' exactly? Not sure what you mean by fixed, because the whole solar system is in flux, orbitally speaking, for instance, asteroids are roaming around the solar system and depending on the vagaries of what planet it happens to pass by, will have its orbit changed, the most recent example was just a few weeks ag ...[text shortened]... all that into an 8 year old trying to understand how the earth orbits around the sun?

Do you believe the majority of sdults needs all that stuffed into there head any more than the 8-year olds do? Isn't that website information enough for most adults to know, too?