Spirituality
01 Jan 20
03 Jan 20
@suzianne saidNo one “confronted“ him nor “accosted” him, what are you on about?
If anyone could confront him and accost him, it would become a free-for-all. How many hundreds of Catholics were there hoping for a blessing from him? If there is no protocol, he could easily be mobbed and injured.
I'm not Catholic, either, but come on, he is an old man.
The people were behind a barrier, a woman just grabbed his arm. There were security people all around him, it was a run-of-the-mill crowd walk, he was not in danger in any way.
Why does him being an “old man” excuse him of shoddy behaviour? He is allegedly Jesus Christ’s representative on earth.
A most unfortunate incident. Was the woman who grabbed him out of line? Yes. Is the Pope a human being with normal reactions and instincts? Yes.
You wouldn't see President Trump or the Queen or the Dalai Lama that close to a mob of people without a cordon of 'men in black' to prevent that sort of thing happening in the first place.
03 Jan 20
@divegeester saidTo sin is to fall short in some way. He's a human and Christianity has all humans as sinners, including the Pope. He sinned, he repented, what more do you expect?
No one “confronted“ him nor “accosted” him, what are you on about?
The people were behind a barrier, a woman just grabbed his arm. There were security people all around him, it was a run-of-the-mill crowd walk, he was not in danger in any way.
Why does him being an “old man” excuse him of shoddy behaviour? He is allegedly Jesus Christ’s representative on earth.
It's not clear to me he was wrong to act the way he did, maybe she ought to have her hand slapped for breaking boundaries. There is an assassination risk and it is sensible to deter that behaviour as he might not have been in danger this time but that can't be guaranteed and John Paul II was lucky to survive an attempt.
You might want to look up John 8:7.
@deepthought saidI don’t expect anything from him, nothing at all.
He's a human and Christianity has all humans as sinners, including the Pope. He sinned, he repented, what more do you expect?
I’m observing and commenting on the behaviour of a man who claims to be the Vicar of Jesus Christ, who stands on earth literally ‘in place of Christ’ and his reaction to one of his devotees who was clearly full of religious vigour and grabbed him without any malicious intent whatsoever.
As I said to someone elsewhere; it’s a storm in a holy grail.
03 Jan 20
@suzianne saidAnd as the pope should be held to a higher standard. Especially in public.
If anyone could confront him and accost him, it would become a free-for-all. How many hundreds of Catholics were there hoping for a blessing from him? If there is no protocol, he could easily be mobbed and injured.
I'm not Catholic, either, but come on, he is an old man.
The Catholic Church, the pope, the cardinals, the priests, the statuary, the pomp, the rites and rituals, the religious trappings and the making of merchandise of the laity and the veneration of alleged saints is a charade.
Just my opinion.
03 Jan 20
@deepthought saidVicar of Christ?
To sin is to fall short in some way. He's a human and Christianity has all humans as sinners, including the Pope. He sinned, he repented, what more do you expect?
It's not clear to me he was wrong to act the way he did, maybe she ought to have her hand slapped for breaking boundaries. There is an assassination risk and it is sensible to deter that behaviour as he mi ...[text shortened]... guaranteed and John Paul II was lucky to survive an attempt.
You might want to look up John 8:7.
Did I miss reading the part in the gospels were Jesus was surrounded by a contingent of soldiers keeping him from being touched?
03 Jan 20
@secondson saidTake it up with the RCC.
Vicar of Christ?
Did I miss reading the part in the gospels were Jesus was surrounded by a contingent of soldiers keeping him from being touched?
"Vicar of Christ" is one of his many titles.