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Now suppose you have received Jesus as Lord years ago. Well it still is GOOD, and VERY GOOD to want Him to more and more make His home in your personality and in your heart.
This is done in FAITH. He is FAITHFUL. We in FAITH invite Him, gentleman as God is, to PLEASE enter and come into more chambers of our hearts.
This is a matter of Jesus is FAITHFUL and we add to that our FAITH to invite Him.
" That Christ may make His home in your heart through faith." (Eph. 3:17)
What does this mean?
This means that by faith we can EAT Jesus to be assimilated into by Jesus. He is willing to be our inward parts.
Lord Jesus, I take You into my memory. Lord I need You to show me what I should remember and what I should forget.
Lord Jesus, I need You to be my choosing will. Lord Jesus come into my choices. Come into my choosing and deciding part. I receive You Lord by faith.
Lord Jesus, come into my mind more and more Lord Jesus. Make your home in my heart. I apply faith to believe You are willing and eager to extend Your influence over my mind.
In this way, the Christ Who initially came into the believer's innermost spirit MOVES OUT to spread more and more into the believer's soul, her personality.
He makes His home. He settles down. He brings His authority into all of our soul by faith.
" That Christ may make His home in your heart through faith." (Eph. 3:17)
Originally posted by @sonshipYou are missing out the critical part of Pauls letter to the Ephesians. Proof that Jesus has made his home in your heart is the following of the commandments.
Now suppose you have received Jesus as Lord years ago. Well it still is GOOD, and VERY GOOD to want Him to more and more make His home in your personality and in your heart.
This is done in FAITH. He is FAITHFUL. We in FAITH invite Him, gentleman as God is, to PLEASE enter and come into more chambers of our hearts.
This is a matter of Jesus is FAITHFU ...[text shortened]... ote] [b] " That Christ may make His home in your heart through faith." (Eph. 3:17) [/quote][/b]
Only those who live righteously will inherit the Kingdom of God as Paul stated clearly. Eating Christ is pointless if you do not obey the commandments
Originally posted by @sonshipThat's your character and posting style. It's the arid, joyless content of your endless soliloquies. On the other hand, I don't have any complaints or regrets at all about my time as a Christian. There was no angst. No damage. No ill-feeling. And you know this because I have shared that information with you in the past.
What "vainglorious and pretentious pseudo- intellectialism"?
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Taking the Lord Jesus in to "digest" Him as food is to allow Christ to be assimilated into us.
There are not many sacraments that were commanded by Christ. But one He did instruct His disciples to keep was the Lord's table and the Lord's supper.
In this custom what is really depicted is how Christians LIVE daily - by eating Jesus. The blood is in a cup. And the bread is in a loaf to be broken. The separation of wine and the bread stand for the death of Christ.
His blood and His body were set apart in His redemptive death.
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The eating of the bread and the drinking of the wine is an all-incompassing symbol that Christ came to be our FOOD. He came to live and die and rise again from man in order to be FOOD that man can take INTO himself.
Here, Jesus spoke of giving His body for the life of the world.
" I am the living bread which came down out of heaven, if anyone eats of this bread, he shall live forever.
And the bread which I will give is My flesh given for the iife of the world." (John 6:51)
The meaning is apologetically profound. If you don't get it you just don't - until God opens your heart's eyes to see the revelation.
God became incarnate to give His incorporated humanity which He put on as food, as the bread from heaven to give divine life to the world. That is a world of dying sinners.
The saying was hard for the listeners then as well as to some now.
"The Jews then contended with one another, saying, How can this man give us His flesh to eat?
Jesus therefore saud to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood you do not have life within yourselves.
He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up in the last day. For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink." (John 6:52-55)
Did you eat Jesus today ?
Originally posted by @sonship
The eating of the bread and the drinking of the wine is an all-incompassing symbol that Christ came to be our FOOD. He came to live and die and rise again from man in order to be FOOD that man can take INTO himself.
Here, Jesus spoke of giving His body for the life of the world.
[b] " I am the living bread which came down out of heaven, if ...[text shortened]... food, and My blood is true drink." (John 6:52-55)
Did you eat Jesus today ?[/b]Do you ever eat Jesus? I dont think so.
You do not preach that obeying the commandments is important
You preach that only Jesus can follow the commandments
You promote simply lip service.
Yet in every passage you quote, if you were to read along a bit further you would find that Jesus and the Apostles explain the matter critical for eternal life in the Kingdom of God.
That critical matter is righteousness. good works and following the commandments
In John 6 you quote the parts you like but omit this little tidbit of advice from Christ
It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you,
they are spirit, and they are life.
(John 6:63 KJV)
Jesus words [ie commandments and teachings] is spirit and is life.
Those who follow and obey will have eternal life
Talkers and hearers are cast out
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Originally posted by @tom-wolseyI am not speaking of transubstantiation of course.
No Catholics around here. It's interesting discussing this subject with them, because they truly believe we do literally eat Jesus (transubstantiation) when we take communion. Of course, atheist types enjoy mocking the whole thing as cannibalistic.
if the physical bread and wine down through the centuries was literally Jesus body and blood He would have been the size of the entire Himalayan Mountain range.
A HUGH amount of flesh and an HUGE amount of blood.
By reading John 6 we see that Jesus said that the flesh profits nothing. But His words - His words are spirit and divine life.
So we may really "eat" Him by taking in His words. Of course the whole Bible is the word of Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit.
Here they grumbled and here He pointed the ones who did not turn away from Him - to His words.
"Many therefore of His disciples, when they heard this, said, This word is hard; who can hear it?
But Jesus, knowing in Himself that His disciples were murmuring about this, said to them,
Does this stumble you? Then what if you saw the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
It is the Sprit who gives life, the flesh profits nothing; the words which I have spoken to you are spirit and are life." (John 6:6-64)
The Lord's Supper signifies the believers live by EATING Jesus Who is God become a man to get into us.
The real way to EAT Jesus is to take into our hearts His word.
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyMaking fun of sonships thread?
I'm picturing a billboard.
"Got Jesus?"
With a picture of a dude taking a big bite out of a candy bar-sized Jesus.
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The best way to obey the Lord Jesus is to turn your heart to Him and take Him by faith.
That is to turn the whole heart towards Jesus the living Person to be touching Him.
This is what that pioneer in living Christ told us. He desired ever to be found IN Him.
" And be found in Him, not having my own righteousness which is out of the law; but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is out of God and based on faith ... " (Phil. 3:9)
He sought to be found in the realm of Jesus the available Person. He sought ever to be found in the sphere of the living Christ living out the righteousness which is out of God and based on faith.
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So Jesus spends many words in John chapter 6 explaining that the manna which fed the Israelites in the wilderness was an allegory of Christ as the bread of life.
Now, the Israelites ate leeks and onions and garlic and flesh in Egypt. When God led them out into the wilderness on their way to the Promise Land of Canaan, He fed them with something called -
"What Is It?"
That's right readers. The Hebrew word we translate "MANNA" means "What Is It?"
This was a mysterious bread from heaven that was the main diet of the Hebrews. They could bake it or boil it or cook it or eat it in any way they wished to prepared it, But that was what God gave them to eat - Manna from heaven - a heavenly "What IS IT ??"
The world doesn't understand when we Christians talk about Christ being the bread of life come down from Heaven. This kind of speaking did nor originate with us.
Jesus was the one who spoke this way. Speaking to the Jews -
"Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, as it is written, He gave them bread out of heaven to eat.
Jesus therefore said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Moses has not given you the bread out of heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread out of heaven.
For the bread of God is He who comes down out of heaven and gives life to the world.
They said therefore to Him, Lord, give us this bread always. Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life, he who comes to Me shall by no means hunger, and he who believes into Me shall by no means ever thirst." (John 6:11-35)
Now we all know enough that if we are hungry and thirsty spiritually in our hearts in this world we may tell Jesus Christ
Lord Jesus, YOU are the bread that came down from heaven. Lord Jesus YOU are that heavenly food that can give us life. We come to you today. Lord we come to you everyday. Lord we eat You that we may have the heavenly life.