@sonship saidCopied and pasted from The Life Study of Hebrews by Witness Lee.
1. Assurance based on the Will of God
2. Assurance based on the Selection and Calling of God
3. Assurance based on the Love and Grace of God
4. Assurance based on the Righteousness of God
5. Assurance based on the Covenant of God
6. Assurance based on the Power of God
7. Assurance based on the Life of God
8. ...[text shortened]... nce based on the eternal presence of the Holy Spirit
Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Now I have to be a bit rude. You're a liar.
I did not cut and paste every word of those points.
They are in my being.
They are burned into my heart.
I pray over them, sing them, muse on them, fellowship them and can draw them up from my heart with a just little reminder.
If I check to make sure I am not making a mistake, that is simply being faithful to my mentors.
And the twelfth point did not come from the Hebrews Life Study.
And I'll tell you what. It is none of your business where I got point number 12 because it is irrelevant to the fact that it is TRUE. If it is not true explain why it is not true.
Either that or just grumble off that you don't believe it.
At any rate I'm sorry if you have no effective guiding elder spiritual person in your life. Why be bitter that some of us do have some?
The elder Paul to the younger Timothy:
"You therefore, my child, be empowered in the grace which is in Christ Jesus;
And the things which you have heard from me through many witnesses, these commit to faithful men, who will be competent to teach others also.
Suffer evil with me as a good soldier of Christ Jesus" (2 Tim. 2:1-3)
"The things which you have also learned and received and heard and seen in me, practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you." (Phil. 4:9)
"Thankyou Lord Jesus for faithful brothers who showed me and taught me and whose lives I may imitate and speaking I TOO may speak. Thank you Liord Jesus for these good shepherds among your servants."
How many of you while playing chess feel obligated to inform the world that you are now performing "Alekine's Defense" or doing a "Sicilian defense" ?
If you are adept and practiced up, you just automatically do it without feeling obligated to immediately credit the maneuver.
Teaching or discussing the gospel [ to the teachable, that is] is similar.
Some are not teachable concerning these things so have a craving to hunt for things to complain about.
@sonship saidA plagiarist calling me a liar. Classic.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Now I have to be a bit rude. You're a liar.
I did not cut and paste every word of those points.
They are in my being.
They are burned into my heart.
I pray over them, sing them, muse on them, fellowship them and can draw them up from my heart with a just little reminder.
If I check to make sure I am not making a mistake, that is simply being fa ...[text shortened]... and speaking I TOO may speak. Thank you Liord Jesus for these good shepherds among your servants."
I simply don't believe the words you have written in this last post of yours. You have descended into lying yourself in a weak attempt to mitigate your plagiarism.
Shame on you.
@sonship saidYes you are very stupid. You are taking upon your shoulders the decision God reserved for His Son Jesus Christ. Only Jesus knows the heart of man who it is that has believed in His heart.
I attacked your notion that every single person who professes with their mouth their belief in Christ have the assurance of eternal life.
Romans 10:8-8 says: TWO matters related assurance:
1.) Confess with your mouth.
2.) Believe in your heart.
You are slanderously trying to misrepresenting me as teaching only ONE r ...[text shortened]... Him;
For "whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (vs. 10-13) [/quote]
Yes you are very stupid. You are taking upon your shoulders the decision God reserved for His Son Jesus Christ. Only Jesus knows the heart of man who it is that has believed in His heart.
That has no effect on the promise.
The stupidity is yours because verse 11 says -
For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes on Him shall not be put to shame." (v.11)
You're sharing in the work of the demons to teach that everyone who believes in Him may be put to shame.
Besides, to call upon the Lord is the obedient response to His own command -
"And call upon Me in the day of trouble: I will deliver you, and you will glorify Me." (Psalm 50:15)
@sonship saidAnd it is only Jesus Christ who knows who it is that truly believes. Not you.
@Rajk999
Yes you are very stupid. You are taking upon your shoulders the decision God reserved for His Son Jesus Christ. Only Jesus knows the heart of man who it is that has believed in His heart.
That has no effect on the promise.
The stupidity is yours because verse 11 says -
For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes on Him shall not ...[text shortened]... Me in the day of trouble: I will deliver you, and you will glorify Me." (Psalm 50:15) [/quote]
And it is only Jesus Christ who knows who it is that truly believes. Not you.
Are you then saying that the following verse is not true ?
"That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." (Rom. 10:9)
Are you telling us that you know that this verse is not true ?
Yes or No ?
If you are saying it is true and that only God is perfectly omniscient ... No problem with that at all.
We know that from Genesis 1:1 all the way through to Revelation 22:21 only God is absolutely omniscient.
@sonship saidIt is true, but it is not for you to claim that you know who believes in their heart.
@Rajk999
And it is only Jesus Christ who knows who it is that truly believes. Not you.
Are you then saying that the following verse is not true ?
"That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." (Rom. 10:9)
Are you telling us that you know that this ve ...[text shortened]... b]Genesis 1:1 [/b] all the way through to Revelation 22:21 only God is absolutely omniscient.
Only God knows.
Those who truly believe in their heart will follow the commandments of Christ.
Those who fail to follow the commandments do not truly believe in their heart.
@divegeester saidSo abso-F7-lutely "Christian" of you. But typical.
Which is worse for you, the feeling of shame for copying someone else’s material, or the feeling of irrelevance that was only your detractors are nothing with this thread?
@divegeester saidBut you do. I'm sure you can see where the logic would lead.
The Christians in this forum hardly, if ever, engage with you.
It is true, but it is not for you to claim that you know who believes in their heart.
Only God knows.
It is one thing to say that God is omniscient. It is another thing, and a wrong one, to say that because of that the Christian can know nothing.
[John writes something to the believers that they may know something and have the assurance.
" I have written these things to you that you may know that you have eternal life, to you who believe into the name of the Son of God." (1 John 5:13)
He did not write " Nobody knows but God. So don't have assurance. "
That is some devilishly false humility of your religion.
I'll take the apostle John's word and teach that. And I don't care how much you brag that you follow the commandments of Christ.
"I write these things to you that you may KNOW that you have eternal life, to you who believe into the name of the Son of God."
@caesar-salad saidThe truth sometimes hurts.
So abso-F7-lutely "Christian" of you. But typical.
Sometimes you have to just bite your pillow, right?