Evolution Cruncher

Originally posted by bbarr
So what? No evolutionary theorist claims that cells were created by humans.

So if humans cannot do it, do you think that life can create itself?

Originally posted by dj2becker
So if humans cannot do it, do you think that life can create itself?

No evolutionary theorist claims that life created itself. We claim that life arose from non-living matter. Do you have any good reason to suppose that this is impossible? If so, present your argument.

Originally posted by dj2becker
So if humans cannot do it, do you think that life can create itself?

Start answering some question yourself.
Tell me how a cell can be it's own building block?

Originally posted by bbarr
No evolutionary theorist claims that life created itself. We claim that life arose from non-living matter. Do you have any good reason to suppose that this is impossible? If so, present your argument.

I posted it earlier on but I suppose you missed it. It is layed out in on this site:http://www.trueorigin.org/abio.asp

By the way, you cannot shift the burden of proof on me. You are the one who is supposed to prove that it is possible in the first place. Until then it is still an impossibility.

Originally posted by frogstomp
Start answering some question yourself.
Tell me how a cell can be it's own building block?

No one has proven that a simple self-copying molecule can self-generate a compound such as DNA. Nor has anyone been able to create one in a laboratory or even on paper.

So please tell me how a cell cannot be it's own building block.

Originally posted by dj2becker
No one has proven that a simple self-copying molecule can self-generate a compound such as DNA. Nor has anyone been able to create one in a laboratory or even on paper.

So please tell me how a cell cannot be it's own building block.

Will you first LEARN some basic chemistry?
jeez dj ... I just told you how far they've gotten In laboratory tests.
I also told you the real probability is certainty , based on known distribution patterns of chemical bonding in a system. It's true I left out the underlying quantum mechanics , but you aint near ready for that anyway.

and this: "So please tell me how a cell cannot be it's own building block"
Maybe bbarr can logic that one out for you, as for me: I'm laughing too hard think about it.

Originally posted by frogstomp
Will you first LEARN some basic chemistry?
jeez dj ... I just told you how far they've gotten In laboratory tests.
I also told you the real probability is certainty , based on known distribution patterns of ch ...[text shortened]... t for you, as for me: I'm laughing too hard think about it.

No one has proven that a simple self-copying molecule can self-generate a compound such as DNA. Nor has anyone been able to create one in a laboratory or even on paper. In case you don't know, a cell contains DNA. So your little 'chemistry' fantasy proves nothing.

Btw: In case you don't know, a lot of "Chemistry" is based on unproven theory.

Originally posted by dj2becker
No one has proven that a simple self-copying molecule can self-generate a compound such as DNA. Nor has anyone been able to create one in a laboratory or even on paper. In case you don't know, a cell contains DNA. So your little 'chemistry' fantasy proves nothing.

Btw: In case you don't know, a lot of "Chemistry" is based on unproven theory.

some examples please?

Originally posted by dj2becker
No one has proven that a simple self-copying molecule can self-generate a compound such as DNA. Nor has anyone been able to create one in a laboratory or even on paper. In case you don't know, a cell contains DNA. So your little 'chemistry' fantasy proves nothing.

Btw: In case you don't know, a lot of "Chemistry" is based on unproven theory.

Fantasy is the realm you take religion to. You have zero knowlege of the universe because of the brainwashing that's been applied to you. AND you don't even have a working understanding of the religion either,

Tell whoever taught you all this crap thanks for killing your brain.

Originally posted by frogstomp
Fantasy is the realm you take religion to. You have zero knowlege of the universe because of the brainwashing that's been applied to you. AND you don't even have a working understanding of the religion either,

Tell whoever taught you all this crap thanks for killing your brain.

I think the availability of information via the Web has had a deleterious effect on young dj2. If any one of us were to discuss these subjects with him verbally in a forum of peers, he would quickly realize that he is arguing from a position of astonishing ignorance. Unfortunately, internet forums allow dj2 to easily dodge questions or offer up fatuous retorts. Even worse, when confronted with a difficult point that would within a live verbal discussion produce pause, he can google up some random drivel to deflect the point and avoid giving it earnest consideration.

Now I agree that the WWW has made things better for us all, and it is invaluable to have an engine to search down and study ideas, but it has also given lazy thinkers an avenue to avoid critical thought and honest research.

Originally posted by frogstomp
some examples please?

Have you ever seen an atom?

Originally posted by frogstomp
Fantasy is the realm you take religion to. You have zero knowlege of the universe because of the brainwashing that's been applied to you. AND you don't even have a working understanding of the religion either,

Tell whoever taught you all this crap thanks for killing your brain.

Fantasy is the realm you take religion to.

That is exactly what makes the theory of Evolution a religion.

I am afraid that you are the one that is brainwashed by evolution fantasy.

Originally posted by telerion
I think the availability of information via the Web has had a deleterious effect on young dj2. If any one of us were to discuss these subjects with him verbally in a forum of peers, he would quickly realize that he is arguing from a position of astonishing ignorance. Unfortunately, internet forums allow dj2 to easily dodge questions or offer up fatuous re ...[text shortened]... as, but it has also given lazy thinkers an avenue to avoid critical thought and honest research.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Have you ever seen an atom?

Have you ever seen a Pigeon chick?

RX

Originally posted by Phlabibit
Have you ever seen a Pigeon chick?

RX

No, but I bet the Froggy stomped on one😉