Fake Christians

I entered into a discussion on fake Christians elsewhere, and this became part of my discussion. For there to be reasons we can call someone a fake anything, there must be truth to compare it to. There is a story allegedly about Einstein to paraphrase he brought up when speaking about evil how it was a deviation from good it couldn't stand on its own, quite like cold it can only be defined by the absence of heat, or darkness by the absence of light.

Even Atheism is nothing on its own, it is the absence of belief in God without a belief in God for comparison you couldn't even claim to be an Atheist. There is simply nothing about Atheism that you can point to and say this is a true Atheist, quite unlike a Christian where there are without a doubt reasons we can say this one is and that one is not. One of the reasons is that you can have someone claiming to be a fake Christian is the claim they are but acts as if s/he were an Athiest with no fear of God in their lives.

If we are going to talk about the deaths of people due to ideology Thestic and Atheistic then in the last century we have Athiest murdering people by the millions in China, and Russia, and adding the lack of value for human life to our abortion industry, it puts those two nations to shame due to shear numbers. I even heard and I'm not sure if it is true, that California wants to legalize using human remains as compost since it is after all according to them, nothing valuable to them, quite like the unborn a commodity nothing more.

We are all judgemental, the difference is in what we value and why, to hold human life as sacred requires a cause that makes sacred possible, as being made in the image of God, Imago Dei, remove that then human life is only a commodity, people then become nothing but objects for our viewing pleasures or toys to do with what we will. Vows become nothing more than statements of law to be held to as long as we desire them to be so. Atheists can be moral, they have no reasons they can point to as to why for a foundational view.

@KellyJay said
I entered into a discussion on fake Christians elsewhere, and this became part of my discussion. For there to be reasons we can call someone a fake anything, there must be truth to compare it to. There is a story allegedly about Einstein to paraphrase he brought up when speaking about evil how it was a deviation from good it couldn't stand on its own, quite like cold it can ...[text shortened]... so. Atheists can be moral, they have no reasons they can point to as to why for a foundational view.

@KellyJay said
I entered into a discussion on fake Christians elsewhere, and this became part of my discussion. For there to be reasons we can call someone a fake anything, there must be truth to compare it to. There is a story allegedly about Einstein to paraphrase he brought up when speaking about evil how it was a deviation from good it couldn't stand on its own, quite like cold it can ...[text shortened]... so. Atheists can be moral, they have no reasons they can point to as to why for a foundational view.

@Indonesia-Phil said
Your 'logic' begins from the false premise that that which you believe to be true is in fact the truth, the fact that others don't believe in it or only pay lip - service to believing in it makes it no more or less true.

I can't speak for others, but elsewhere in these forums I made the point that I don't regard myself as an Atheist, since as far as I'm concerned t ...[text shortened]... ristianity is no more or less culpable that many other beliefs or Ideologies, so what is your point?

@PettyTalk said
I would venture to say that 99.9999999% of all those who today retain themselves to be Christians are fake, where fake is the absence of genuineness and lack of wholeness.

Only the whole (complete) is genuine. Putting it mildly, anyone who follows Christ's teaching/instructions on a partial basis is a fake Christian.

Besides, your argument lacks genuine foundationa ...[text shortened]... humans, which He created, to nail His one and only Begotten Son to a cross, and be dead for 3 days.

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@KellyJay said
I believe the only fakes ones are those without Jesus Christ in their lives, all the others are just running through the motions.

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@PettyTalk said
Describe having Jesus in your life.

@KellyJay said
You are of the opinion that what you believe is true is?

@Indonesia-Phil said
We aren't discussing my 'beliefs' though, are we? It's you who have begun a forum thread with a statement which makes no sense, and as with everything you post here it stands up to no scrutiny whatsoever, and as always you are quite unable to defend what you write. Unless and until you understand and accept the fundamental flaw in the logic of your first paragraph, there really is no point to this conversation.

@Indonesia-Phil said
We aren't discussing my 'beliefs' though, are we? It's you who have begun a forum thread with a statement which makes no sense, and as with everything you post here it stands up to no scrutiny whatsoever, and as always you are quite unable to defend what you write. Unless and until you understand and accept the fundamental flaw in the logic of your first paragraph, there really is no point to this conversation.

@KellyJay said
One of the reasons is that you can have someone claiming to be a fake Christian is the claim they are but acts as if s/he were an Athiest with no fear of God in their lives.