22 Dec 11
Originally posted by mikelomWe were separated by 1,100 miles, Mike. Of course there's a time to mourn and a longing
I can't agree that the day of losing one's mother is a 'glorious' day, no matter the circumstances GB.
And even though you say you were prepared, were you not with her and her deceased being through those moments?
No matter the ifs or buts, but being there and holding and being present would surmount any compassion I have, would have had under such cir ...[text shortened]... for being online and posting at RHP.
Can't you see even that outline of respect?
-m.
to be with loved ones again... never a time for a guy's emotions to vibrate uncontrollably.
gb
22 Dec 11
Originally posted by AgergYou, Sir, appear to be struggling with the basic acceptance of authority. If we replaced the words
[b]Sin is abhorrent to God. Period.
and since "Sin" means nothing more than *that which "God" doesn't like* then the above can be paraphrased as:
The doing of anything which "God" doesn't like is abhorrent to "God"
That doesn't excuse him from being a dick[/b]
'sin' with 'tos violation' and 'God' with 'Russ', would you accuse Russ of being a "d___" in public?
gb
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI would indeed call Russ a dick if he created a site along with a TOS for which mere usage of the site directly causes a violation of the TOS and then he tortured people for violating terms of service.
You, Sir, appear to be struggling with the basic acceptance of authority. If we replaced the words
'sin' with 'tos violation' and 'God' with 'Russ', would you accuse Russ of being a "d___" in public?
gb
22 Dec 11
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYour glorious day was/is:
We were separated by 1,100 miles, Mike. Of course there's a time to mourn and a longing
to be with loved ones again... never a time for a guy's emotions to vibrate uncontrollably.
gb
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Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven?
And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?
When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.
When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.
Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater."
But I say unto you, they are inseparable.
Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.
Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy.
Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced.
When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.
Kahlil Gibran.
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As for a guy's emotions not to vibrate? Did you never vibrate in love?
-m.
22 Dec 11
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Originally posted by mikelombut if you eliminate all of your suffering and reach that "standstill" - it also means eliminating your joy
Your glorious day was/is:
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Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's o n.
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As for a guy's emotions not to vibrate? Did you never vibrate in love?
-m.
is this really the best way?
22 Dec 11
Originally posted by mikelomNice. Reference to emotions was in context of personal loss and adversity,
Your glorious day was/is:
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Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's o ...[text shortened]... n.
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As for a guy's emotions not to vibrate? Did you never vibrate in love?
-m.
not the joys of intimate romantic rapport and fulfilling love. Back on track.
😉
22 Dec 11
Originally posted by MelanerpesThere was no aforementioned standstill.
but if you eliminate all of your suffering and reach that "standstill" - it also means eliminating your joy
is this really the best way?
Being carved into by suffering and not only one's own, but those of others also, enables the ability to work against that suffering - with knowledge and experience - enabling more joy all around.
That is 'one' way.
-m.
22 Dec 11
Originally posted by mikelomIn music, there's something about performers who "have the world written on their face" -- they seem to produce some of the most "joyful" music precisely because they have suffered. Johnny Cash comes to mind.
There was no aforementioned standstill.
Being carved into by suffering and not only one's own, but those of others also, enables the ability to work against that suffering - with knowledge and experience - enabling more joy all around.
That is 'one' way.
-m.
22 Dec 11
Originally posted by MelanerpesSimilarly, this is what made the blues such great music.
In music, there's something about performers who "have the world written on their face" -- they seem to produce some of the most "joyful" music precisely because they have suffered. Johnny Cash comes to mind.
23 Dec 11
Originally posted by FabianFnasWhy would you want to do anything that would not please our Father
No, he doesn't. He says "Obey me, because if you go against my will, then you go to hell when you die." That threat doesn't give me a choice.
In this sense he is not a god of love, but a revencheful god.
in Heaven?
Originally posted by AgergYou probably did not obey your earthly father either.
[b]Sin is abhorrent to God. Period.
and since "Sin" means nothing more than *that which "God" doesn't like* then the above can be paraphrased as:
The doing of anything which "God" doesn't like is abhorrent to "God"
That doesn't excuse him from being a dick[/b]