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Originally posted by karoly aczel
Was any acceleration apparent? Or did it just shoot off without any apparent speeding up?
It was night and no clouds. No as far as it did not gradually speed up. It just shot off at what seemed from my reference point to be incredible speed.

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Originally posted by menace71
It was night and no clouds. No as far as it did not gradually speed up. It just shot off at what seemed from my reference point to be incredible speed.
The one I saw came straight towards me at incredible speed and then "stopped on a dime " for about half a second, then it shot upwards at incredible speed with no acceleration. Awesome sighting. Thats the only real one I've seen. People have pointed out that it could've been a military craft.
I dont think so.

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
Your not the first one to say that 🙂

I dont know if it would make a difference for you, but I first experienced this kind of stuff before I went hunting for books on the subject.
For me, the difference is immense.

I'm not about to look into your link, simply because I have limited credit and I would much rather check out ua41's bands version of culties are faulty. I know it.
One who realizes they are blind have one eye open already.
Oh, I see. It is actually very low bandwidth, less than a page on the forums. I will see if I can do a text version...

...Turns out, I can't because RHP removes multiple spaces so I can't lay it out. Grrrrr. It's a simple cartoon & will take 15 seconds of your time and virtually zero bandwidth.

http://xkcd.com/808/

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
The one I saw came straight towards me at incredible speed and then "stopped on a dime " for about half a second, then it shot upwards at incredible speed with no acceleration. Awesome sighting. Thats the only real one I've seen. People have pointed out that it could've been a military craft.
I dont think so.
What I saw I supposed could of been ball lighting but I can't say either way. I would say it was literally an U.F.O. I can tell you what it was not however.


* Airplane NO
* Helicopter NO
* Comet/shooting star NO (I guess possible but it was stationary for a long time)
* Bird(s) NO
* Balloons/Blimp ect NO

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Originally posted by Penguin
Oh, I see. It is actually [b]very low bandwidth, less than a page on the forums. I will see if I can do a text version...

...Turns out, I can't because RHP removes multiple spaces so I can't lay it out. Grrrrr. It's a simple cartoon & will take 15 seconds of your time and virtually zero bandwidth.

http://xkcd.com/808/

--- Penguin[/b]
Didn't I read somewhere that some oil company or other has paid some guy to do map dowsing for them?

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Originally posted by Penguin
Oh, I see. It is actually [b]very low bandwidth, less than a page on the forums. I will see if I can do a text version...

...Turns out, I can't because RHP removes multiple spaces so I can't lay it out. Grrrrr. It's a simple cartoon & will take 15 seconds of your time and virtually zero bandwidth.

http://xkcd.com/808/

--- Penguin[/b]
ok. The government gave me a loan. I now have no excuse 🙂
Give me a few minutes..

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
ok. The government gave me a loan. I now have no excuse 🙂
Give me a few minutes..
Hey Penguin- very funny sketches, I viewed about 5 of them, was one of them a specific answer to anything we were discussing (?)

(bit rushed right now)

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
Hey Penguin- very funny sketches, I viewed about 5 of them, was one of them a specific answer to anything we were discussing (?)

(bit rushed right now)
It was sort of apropos of your mention of Bob Frissell who wrote the book where you got your ideas about aliens and extra dimensions. I looked him and his book up and it reminded me of that xkcd cartoon.

One of the things that he states is that 'free energy' machines exist (apparently on page 154) If you have the book, look it up and tell me if he really does say this and what evidence he provides for the assertion.

If free energy machines really did exist, then the first energy company to discover them would wipe out all competition by patenting and selling them. The fact that they have not implies either that such machines do not exist and Bob Frissell is talking bollox or that energy companies are not that bothered about making money...

Which do you think is more likely?

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Originally posted by Penguin
It was sort of apropos of your mention of Bob Frissell who wrote the book where you got your ideas about aliens and extra dimensions. I looked him and his book up and it reminded me of that xkcd cartoon.

One of the things that he states is that 'free energy' machines exist (apparently on page 154) If you have the book, look it up and tell me if he really ...[text shortened]... not that bothered about making money...

Which do you think is more likely?

--- Penguin.
I do believe that he says that on pg. 154, lets see... well maybe on another page.

The powers that be are entrenched in oil based fuels. We've had the bronze age and the gold age etc. These years will be known as the oil years.
So much of the worlds money is tied up in it.

These people dont want you to have free energy or even cheap energy.

Tell me this: Why are there children starving in our world? Because there is not enough food?


edit: page 153. "So the powers that be haven't wanted us to know about these free energy machines either, but it is inevitable. According to Drunvalo they have been presented to the United Nations and it is now only a matter of time before this information becomes public."

The picture this book paints is consistent with the crap I see going on around me everyday.

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Originally posted by Penguin
It was sort of apropos of your mention of Bob Frissell who wrote the book where you got your ideas about aliens and extra dimensions. I looked him and his book up and it reminded me of that xkcd cartoon.

One of the things that he states is that 'free energy' machines exist (apparently on page 154) If you have the book, look it up and tell me if he really ...[text shortened]... not that bothered about making money...

Which do you think is more likely?

--- Penguin.
And again, put another way, there is a big , evil force that holds us in our patterns on materiality and survival, where we are spiritual beings and thus must live, not only survive.
For this and other "control" reasons, we have created a world that reflects our minds/intentions.
Or did you think you had no power over the outside world?

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
I do believe that he says that on pg. 154, lets see... well maybe on another page.

The powers that be are entrenched in oil based fuels. We've had the bronze age and the gold age etc. These years will be known as the oil years.
So much of the worlds money is tied up in it.

These people dont want you to have free energy or even cheap energy.

Te ...[text shortened]...
The picture this book paints is consistent with the crap I see going on around me everyday.
Sorry not to have replied on this one. I was just amazed that you would fall for that one. You are implying a huge conspiracy here that is orders of magnitude greater than I think the 'powers that be' are capable of sustaining.

Any scientist discovering this would publish. Yes they would initially be ridiculed but I don't think it would be long before the scientific community realised. And they are not all under the control of oil companies. If the conspiracy is successful then this guy would not be aware of it. If it has failed to keep him quiet then it would also fail to keep quiet the people who can actually demonstrate that the 2nd law of thermodynamics is wrong and our entire understanding of physics needs to be thrown out.

Somewhere in the world, a company or a country would develop this and free themselves from reliance on an expensive fuel obtained largely from unstable countries. And they would not keep this quiet.

Watergate
Profumo
The dodgy Iraq dossier
Wikileaks

If they failed to keep the above under wraps, I really don't think they would be able to hide something this big.

It is an extaordinary claim. I would need extraordinary evidence before believing it. You seem to be the ther way round: the more unlikely the claim, the less evidence you need before believing it.

--- Penguin.

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Originally posted by Penguin
Sorry not to have replied on this one. I was just amazed that you would fall for that one. You are implying a huge conspiracy here that is orders of magnitude greater than I think the 'powers that be' are capable of sustaining.

Any scientist discovering this would publish. Yes they would initially be ridiculed but I don't think it would be long before the ...[text shortened]... the more unlikely the claim, the less evidence you need before believing it.

--- Penguin.
Sure, I see your view on this. Thnx for the reply.
If indeed what is claimed is true, it should be coming out in the next few years.

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Yeah, like the 2nd coming!

How long would you be wiiling to wait before concluding that free energy machines don't actually exist?

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Originally posted by Penguin
Yeah, like the 2nd coming!

How long would you be wiiling to wait before concluding that free energy machines don't actually exist?

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I dont know... a couple more years? 🙂

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Was just watching "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy. Interesting how men are the most powerful and the most corruptible.
But of course, that is just a work of fiction...

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