23 Nov 05
Originally posted by windmillerm...
O.K. then....
Let's continue the game.
-Why would I want you to become a Christian?
- so that I stop pointing out the flaws in your flimsy belief system?
- so that I become like you and increase you feeling of safety in numbers?
- so that I can start to Rec. your crappy posts like your other dim witted God bothering pals?
- so that I contribute finacially to your religion, making it stronger and allowing it to buy more gold/invest in more arms companies?
Am I close?
23 Nov 05
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Originally posted by David Cbut that was Hal's suggestion[/b]
[b]You will find "apparent" similarities between clinically diagnosed psychoses and observed behaviours of "rabid" followers of anything - political parties, rock bands, TV shows, fashion trends etc.
Yes. You'll notice, I stopped short of stating "rabid believers of Christianity".
Even if his analysis holds true, I don't see why a ...[text shortened]... rove him to kill any different than James Kopp sniping a doctor because of his beliefs in Jesus?
Yes. I meant empirical evidence. Can we submit God to the scientific method? Natural science presupposes the non-existence of the supernatural. As such any conclusion already excludes the supernatural in its inception. That is what I would readily admit to. Hg's belief system (I know he will vehemently deny the existence of any belief) on the other hand has some profound philosophical shortcomings, such as: What was the first cause to the Big Bang? Why would the scientific method presuppose a world with laws and phenomenon that can be repeatedly tested and verified?
23 Nov 05
Originally posted by howardgeeI'm sorry....but your not even close.
erm...
- so that I stop pointing out the flaws in your flimsy belief system?
- so that I become like you and increase you feeling of safety in numbers?
- so that I can start to Rec. your crappy posts like your other dim witted God bothering pals?
- so that I contribute finacially to your religion, making it stronger and allowing it to buy more gold/invest in more arms companies?
Am I close?
-This is the logical question to answer you were looking for.I don't know?Logic aside i already gave you the correct answer in my first reply!🙂
23 Nov 05
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Originally posted by howardgeeAlos....u have a typing error in this post.It is"proff".k
[b]Compare and contrast (If your brain can cope):
I met a man the other day who said that a little green dwarf had saved humanity. When I asked for proof about this little green dwarf, the man simply told me to ask the little green dwarf myself.
However there was no little green dwarf to be seen.
23 Nov 05
Originally posted by windmill"-This is the logical question to answer you were looking for."
I'm sorry....but your not even close.
-This is the logical question to answer you were looking for.I don't know?Logic aside i already gave you the correct answer in my first reply!🙂
This does not even make sense.
Speak English, boy.
23 Nov 05
Originally posted by lucifershammerNo, it is clear we all have senses (although you appear quite senseless at times).
No - I'm using an age-old philosophical question that a film demonstrated in stark terms.
Isn't your belief that you have any senses at all ultimately a matter of faith?
I assume your point is - can we trust them?
23 Nov 05
Originally posted by howardgeeNo, it is clear we all have senses.
No, it is clear we all have senses (although you appear quite senseless at times).
I assume your point is - can we trust them?
Obligatory cussing aside, it is by no means clear why we do actually possess senses (where sense is understood to be an internal representation of an external reality apprehended through the five faculties - sight, sound, smell, touch, taste). You cannot point out that what seems to be sensory evidence (sights, sounds, tastes etc.) are proofs of the existence of the sense itself - because we can obtain the same evidence when we're dreaming as well.
I assume your point is - can we trust them?
No, my point is - do we possess these faculties at all? Do we have any "real" senses?
23 Nov 05
Originally posted by howardgeeYou don't think i should have a personal relationship with Jesus.I don't think you deserve one.And thank you for the compliment on my age.I'm 34.🙂
"-This is the logical question to answer you were looking for."
This does not even make sense.
Speak English, boy.
24 Nov 05
Originally posted by lucifershammerIf we did not have senses, then we would never have dreams.
[b]No, it is clear we all have senses.
Obligatory cussing aside, it is by no means clear why we do actually possess senses (where sense is understood to be an internal representation of an external reality apprehended through the five faculties - sight, sound, smell, touch, taste). You cannot point out that what seems to be sensory evidence (si ...[text shortened]... ?[/b]
No, my point is - do we possess these faculties at all? Do we have any "real" senses?[/b]
This is because we would not have any experiences to dream about.
You might as well not possess any sensory faculties.
After all, you choose to believe in the existence of something which you (and every-one else) has never experienced at all.