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10 Jan 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelWe've had this conversation before. If I recall correctly, what emerged was that we use the terms 'research' and 'evidence' in radically different ways.
People pulling 200 tonne blocks around?! Cool! I'm not saying you're wrong but I wonder if you've researched this stuff as much as I have? Oh gosh! I really don't care so much ,but can you at least admit there are some unadressed mysteries here? Or is it all 'cut and dry'?
I think you like your aliens-built-the-pyramids idea so much that no amount of reasonable counter argument (as supplied by wolfgang above) will dissuade you. If I told you they've excavated mud ramps on unfinished projects, it would make no difference. You are spinning a different kind of yarn from that which is informed by evidence and reason.
10 Jan 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelDude, you need to lay off the smoke for a bit.
Its all an interacate web of multidimensional beings 'fighting' the 'baddies' to bring about enlightenment for all mankind. The pyramids are one piece of the jigsaw.
They were not burial chambers ,rather they were initiation chambers for adepts to ascend to higher levels of conciosness.
The Egyptian 'authorities' have long obscured their purpose.
10 Jan 10
Originally posted by Lord SharkThere is no conclusive proof.
We've had this conversation before. If I recall correctly, what emerged was that we use the terms 'research' and 'evidence' in radically different ways.
I think you like your aliens-built-the-pyramids idea so much that no amount of reasonable counter argument (as supplied by wolfgang above) will dissuade you. If I told you they've excavated mud ramps o ...[text shortened]... are spinning a different kind of yarn from that which is informed by evidence and reason.
Is there machinery that can lift 200 tonne blocks?
No,dear Lord, I'm open to a proper explanation.
I suspect our interpratation of linguistics has something to do with our difference of opinion,(like what an "alien" is or a "human" for that matter), a matter I have tried to address in my "E.T. 101" thread
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11 Jan 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelOriginally posted by karoly aczel
There is no conclusive proof.
Is there machinery that can lift 200 tonne blocks?
No,dear Lord, I'm open to a proper explanation.
I suspect our interpratation of linguistics has something to do with our difference of opinion,(like what an "alien" is or a "human" for that matter), a matter I have tried to address in my "E.T. 101" thread
There is no conclusive proof.
Nor will you get any, ever, outside mathematics, logic or other formal contexts. What there is here, is compelling evidence that the pyramids were within the capabilities of the people of the time. They've done re-enactments and everything. They've calculated how to move really heavy things, even 200 tonne blocks. There is machinery that can do it. But you won't listen.
No,dear Lord, I'm open to a proper explanation.
It doesn't seem that way to me.
I suspect our interpratation of linguistics has something to do with our difference of opinion,(like what an "alien" is or a "human" for that matter), a matter I have tried to address in my "E.T. 101" thread
I disagree. I think that our difference of opinion is due to our different stances on how to find things out properly. I think you are unskilled and unaware of it.
11 Jan 10
Originally posted by Lord SharkI'm open to proper explanation.
Originally posted by karoly aczel
[b]There is no conclusive proof.
Nor will you get any, ever, outside mathematics, logic or other formal contexts. What there is here, is compelling evidence that the pyramids were within the capabilities of the people of the time. They've done re-enactments and everything. They've calculated how to move real ...[text shortened]... nces on how to find things out properly. I think you are unskilled and unaware of it.[/b]
My words that I type do me an injustice. I'm often appalled to read the terrible English I come up with on these threads. However I do try. I have had some amazing 'spiritual' experiences that have nearly driven me insane. Thats why I hang around the spirituality forum.
Again, I will state that most of my assertions are primarily based on personal experience.
You say they can lift 200 tonne blocks with modern machinery. Cool .
Its not just the weight of the blocks. The precision at which these blocks were fitted together suggests advanced technology. Anyway I reckon time will tell whether I'm right or not. Do you feel the change in the air? I do . And I wish everyone very positive thoughts for this upcoming shift.
The pyramids are just one piece of the jigsaw puzzle that constitutes modern day spirituality.
I believe understanding the truth of our collective past will shine the light for the way forward. We need to know what happened that screwed up humanity so we can learn from these mistakes. Modern consumerism and materielity has a lot to answer for.
We are born with flasehoods past onto us unsuspectingly by our parents. I'm sure I've done it to my kids.
The bottom line is no one knows. Modern science,especially quantum theory , is a very important tool to understanding who we are. (Is it 'who' or 'what'?)
I had a friend who used to repeat over and over: "It's 90% preparation" . Do you know what he meant? I think I do
11 Jan 10
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomI believe it is highly probable that there is life on other planets.
aliens and/or god exist; look no further:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew74bFURFi8
youre crazy if you believe we are the only planet that supports life
I believe it is absolutely crazy to think that visitors built the pyramids!
Don't confuse the two arguments, .. and what on earth has quantum mechanics to do with anything?
11 Jan 10
Originally posted by wolfgang59Quantum theory points the way to the future of science and understanding what/who we are.
I believe it is [b]highly probable that there is life on other planets.
I believe it is absolutely crazy to think that visitors built the pyramids!
Don't confuse the two arguments, .. and what on earth has quantum mechanics to do with anything?[/b]
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11 Jan 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelI'm open to proper explanation.
I'm open to proper explanation.
My words that I type do me an injustice. I'm often appalled to read the terrible English I come up with on these threads. However I do try. I have had some amazing 'spiritual' experiences that have nearly driven me insane. Thats why I hang around the spirituality forum.
Again, I will state that most of my assertions ...[text shortened]... at over and over: "It's 90% preparation" . Do you know what he meant? I think I do
Yet there are plenty out there, including demonstrations. But you haven't accepted them. Therefore you are not open to proper explanation.
My words that I type do me an injustice. I'm often appalled to read the terrible English I come up with on these threads.
Don't blame the English, it is fine. Blame your spurious epistemology, that is not at all fine.
Its not just the weight of the blocks. The precision at which these blocks were fitted together suggests advanced technology.
No it doesn't. You have been unable to provide any good evidence for this assertion. The fact that you continue to espouse it is an indication that your commitment to your theory is non rational.
I believe understanding the truth of our collective past will shine the light for the way forward. We need to know what happened that screwed up humanity so we can learn from these mistakes.
Sorry, I'm not buying. But I wish you well.
The bottom line is no one knows.
I disagree. The bottom line is that not all beliefs are equally defensible.
11 Jan 10
Originally posted by Lord Sharkone doesn't have to lift those blocks. one theory suggests the egyptians built ramps which surrounded the pyramids, ramps which grew as the construction progressed.
Originally posted by karoly aczel
[b]There is no conclusive proof.
Nor will you get any, ever, outside mathematics, logic or other formal contexts. What there is here, is compelling evidence that the pyramids were within the capabilities of the people of the time. They've done re-enactments and everything. They've calculated how to move real ...[text shortened]... nces on how to find things out properly. I think you are unskilled and unaware of it.[/b]
the point is we marvel at what they accomplished because we like to think we are so awesome and so much better. anything we can think of to lower the merit of a great people and make us look so much better.
on aliens helping them: you would think they wouldn't spend so many thousands of years hiding from us when they helped a bunch of egyptians in the desert build a lot of pyramids. and told them to write that the constructions lasted a lifetime.
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Originally posted by karoly aczelPyramids were built by many ancient cultures, from Peru, Mesoamerica, China, Indonesia, India, Greek. Did they all have help from travellers from another star system?
I'm open to proper explanation.
My words that I type do me an injustice. I'm often appalled to read the terrible English I come up with on these threads. However I do try. I have had some amazing 'spiritual' experiences that have nearly driven me insane. Thats why I hang around the spirituality forum.
Again, I will state that most of my assertions at over and over: "It's 90% preparation" . Do you know what he meant? I think I do
Here's a list of megalithic sites from the oracle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megalithic_sites
As you can see huge megaliths have been moved all round the globe.
11 Jan 10
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Originally posted by Proper Knobhow incredibly interesting! remarkable picture of Indonesians (christians/muslims????) transporting a huge stone.
Pyramids were built by many ancient cultures, from Peru, Mesoamerica, China, Indonesia, India, Greek. Did they all have help from travellers from another star system?
Here's a list of megalithic sites from the oracle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megalithic_sites
As you can see huge megaliths have been moved all round the globe.
11 Jan 10
Originally posted by Proper Knobthis argument would better support the existance of an alien culture rather than dismiss it.
Pyramids were built by many ancient cultures, from Peru, Mesoamerica, China, Indonesia, India, Greek. Did they all have help from travellers from another star system?
Here's a list of megalithic sites from the oracle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megalithic_sites
As you can see huge megaliths have been moved all round the globe.