Originally posted by chaney3However, evil is not a “thing” like a rock or electricity. You cannot have a jar of evil. Evil has no existence of its own; it is really the absence of good. For example, holes are real but they only exist in something else. We call the absence of dirt a hole, but it cannot be separated from the dirt. So when God created, it is true that all He created was good. One of the good things God made was creatures who had the freedom to choose good. In order to have a real choice, God had to allow there to be something besides good to choose. So, God allowed these free angels and humans to choose good or reject good (evil). When a bad relationship exists between two good things we call that evil, but it does not become a “thing” that required God to create it.
Weak post, because God still created it.
God created both good and evil.
Perhaps a further illustration will help. If a person is asked, “Does cold exist?” the answer would likely be “yes.” However, this is incorrect. Cold does not exist. Cold is the absence of heat. Similarly, darkness does not exist; it is the absence of light. Evil is the absence of good, or better, evil is the absence of God. God did not have to create evil, but rather only allow for the absence of good.
God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation, not choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.
https://gotquestions.org/did-God-create-evil.html
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeChaney won't take the bad with the good. If he doesn't go to sleep (his choice) he will blame God for his headache the next morning, because according to him God created everything including his headache. The fact that God gave him the ability to choose to go to bed is irrelevant to him.
'Everything' also includes bed.
Go to it.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by chaney3What part of my explainaton (which I provided twice) do you not understand?
Dive, FMF and KellyJay:
God created everything, which includes sin and evil.
End of story. If God is the Creator, you cannot have it any other way. He either created all, or....Lucifer outranked Him at some point.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYou are an atheist, and I resent your post.
'Everything' also includes bed.
Go to it.
Since you do not believe God exists and that He created everything, you cannot offer any substance here but a weak joke.
If evil exists, it's because God created it. Why? I don't know.
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25 Oct 16
Originally posted by chaney3Not a joke. Solid advice.
You are an atheist, and I resent your post.
Since you do not believe God exists and that He created everything, you cannot offer any substance here but a weak joke.
If evil exists, it's because God created it. Why? I don't know.
25 Oct 16
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeWhy? Because I am offering my opinion?
Not a joke. Solid advice.
I have grown tired of hearing how we humans are merely filthy sinners who need to beg God for forgiveness. For what?
If sin and evil exist, it's because God created it, and the narrative may be incorrect.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI disagree with your notion that evil is merely the absence of good. Evil is a direct action.
However, evil is not a “thing” like a rock or electricity. You cannot have a jar of evil. Evil has no existence of its own; it is really the absence of good. For example, holes are real but they only exist in something else. We call the absence of dirt a hole, but it cannot be separated from the dirt. So when God created, it is true that all He created w ...[text shortened]... oose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.
https://gotquestions.org/did-God-create-evil.html
Hitler may not have pursued good, but it's only his evil 'actions' that made him Hitler.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by chaney3Fine don't ask God for forgiveness, continue blaming him for your actions, spout off how
Why? Because I am offering my opinion?
I have grown tired of hearing how we humans are merely filthy sinners who need to beg God for forgiveness. For what?
If sin and evil exist, it's because God created it, and the narrative may be incorrect.
its all His fault for all of your choices. You want to be self-righteous by saying you have
clean hands and are not responsible for your actions someone else is, so be it.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by KellyJayI am not blaming God, please stop saying that.
Fine don't ask God for forgiveness, continue blaming him for your actions, spout off how
its all His fault for all of your choices. You want to be self-righteous by saying you have
clean hands and are not responsible for your actions someone else is, so be it.
God created everything, including sin and evil.
I am suggesting that the story we know is wrong.