Spirituality
13 Apr 12
15 Apr 12
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoHear that!! We are all God 🙂
I submit an extract from an Upanishad about how the Ultimate Reality or the Truth or God is attempted to be described.
Taittiriya Upanishad, III.iii.1
It is THAT from which all beings and entities are brought into existence, and having been brought into existence, because of which they exist, and into which on the ceasing of existence, they merge, THA ...[text shortened]... rahman.
Brahman is one of the names of God, that is commonly used in the Vedas and the Vedanta.
15 Apr 12
Originally posted by Pianoman1I'll bet my life Dawkins won't say that to God's face.
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully"
Wow ...[text shortened]... ve disposition.
Excellent stuff!! (gues I'll just sit and wait for all the thumbs down!)
16 Apr 12
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Originally posted by Pianoman11. jealous and proud of it
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully"
Wow ve disposition.
Excellent stuff!! (gues I'll just sit and wait for all the thumbs down!)
actually the term jealous in this instance means one demanding exclusive devotion,
its not to be confused with human jealousy, Dawkins is unaware of the distinctions it
seems.
2. petty , a mere opinion, unsubstantiated.
3. unjust, again a mere opinion unsubstantiated in text.
4. unforgiving control freak? There are many instances in the Hebrew portion of
scripture which attest to Gods forgiveness, again this is an unfounded and rather
ignorant assertion.
5.ethnic cleanser? actually in the conquest of the 'promised land', cities were given
the option to submit or to flee. In one instance , the Midianites waged war upon
Israel ,when in fact, the Israelites were commanded not to wage war upon them. It
may also be argued that God was executing those who had perpetrated heinous
crimes, such as child sacrifice.
6. Misogynistic? evidence nil, in fact the Mosaic Law made provision for not only
women as in the case of inheritance ad marraige but stipulated that widows and
fatherless boys were to be taken care of as well as non Israelites who resided
among Israel, termed alien residents.
7.Homophobic? I dont think God has anything to fear from humans.
8.Racist? evidence nil, anyone could become a Proselyte in Israel.
9. Infanticide? no , the responsibility for the safety and well being of ones family
rests with the parents, if they have taken a stand against God and their family
suffers, the error is their own. Infact it can be proven the God detested the practice
of those nations who practised child sacrifice and because of their immorality, they
were divinely executed.
all in all the largest pile of unsubstantiated mere opinion that one has the misfortune
to stumble upon. Interesting is the fact that he has not one objective statement to
make about the Mosaic Law and its provisions for the poor, nor of the festival which
also proved for those who were less fortunate like the festival of booths, nor of
dietary laws, hygiene laws, or the quarantine laws, or the agricultural laws which
staved off disease and benefited those who applied them in an immense way,
clearly, hes bigoted and ill informed and because of his failure to ascertain the
true character of the Biblical God proceeds to spread his poisonous and biased
points of view..
16 Apr 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMaybe we're not reading the same Bible. 😵
1. jealous and proud of it
actually the term jealous in this instance means one demanding exclusive devotion,
its not to be confused with human jealousy, Dawkins is unaware of the distinctions it
seems.
2. petty , a mere opinion, unsubstantiated.
3. unjust, again a mere opinion unsubstantiated in text.
4. unforgiving control freak? T ...[text shortened]... e character of the Biblical God proceeds to spread his poisonous and biased
points of view..
This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.' (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)
I'd say this establishes several things on the list: unjust, ethnic cleanser, and infanticidal, and that's just one counterexample. The sad thing is, practically everything Dawkins said about God is based directly on the Bible.
16 Apr 12
Here's a personal fav:
24 At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met [Moses] and was about to kill him. 25 But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched [Moses’] feet with it. “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said. 26 So the Lord let him alone.
Yeah. God was going to kill Moses for his failure to mutilate the genitals of his own son. Nothing petty about that. 😵
16 Apr 12
Originally posted by SwissGambityes but again this is simply a one sided portrayal, what about the Gibeonites, they
Maybe we're not reading the same Bible. 😵
This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and ...[text shortened]... sad thing is, practically everything Dawkins said about God is based directly on the Bible.
came to Israel under the guise of being far away and were accepted, infact, their
descendants came to be workers at the temple in Solomon's time.
16 Apr 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDeu 6:14-15 "You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, for the LORD your God in the midst of you is a jealous God; otherwise the anger of the LORD your God will be kindled against you, and He will wipe you off the face of the earth.
1. jealous and proud of it
actually the term jealous in this instance means one demanding exclusive devotion,
its not to be confused with human jealousy, Dawkins is unaware of the distinctions it
seems.
nah, he's jealous and proud of it. dawkins got it right.
i would actually call it insanely jealous; there is definite fatal attraction there.