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If the government collecting tax is robbing, then how should we describe the citizens (who were robbed) taking advantage of government works?
Since the citizen claims he was robbed, the money used to build the roads was not his. So when he uses that road, is he robbing the government?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
What makes charity, charity?
Is it because of who gets something, why it was given, does it cost the one giving?
I'd offer this: charity is an activity or grant that benefits the public at large by providing help to the needy, deprived or suffering to which they do not have some legally binding entitlement. I don't think unemployment benefits or old age pensions are examples of charity.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
If the government collecting tax is robbing, then how should we describe the citizens (who were robbed) taking advantage of government works?
Since the citizen claims he was robbed, the money used to build the roads was not his. So when he uses that road, is he robbing the government?
If taxation is theft, then non-hermits would be in possession of stolen goods, not robbers themselves.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
If taxation is theft, then non-hermits would be in possession of stolen goods, not robbers themselves.
Taxation isn't theft at least it shouldn't be. The exchange of money from one
to another can be no different, since both are done through force the
difference is one is not through the rule of law, and one is forced by the power of
the government's laws. Since both are by force they share somethings in common.
Bottom line one just happens to be legal the other is not, either way some
body is going to be poorer.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Taxation isn't theft at least it shouldn't be. The exchange of money from one
to another can be no different, since both are done through force the
difference is one is not through the rule of law, and one is forced by the power of
the government's laws. Since both are by force they share somethings in common.
Bottom line one just happens to be legal the other is not, either way some
body is going to be poorer.
Earlier you said taxing is "robbing" and "robbery". Now you're saying it is not "theft". Can you explain? Either the government has the right to tax you and spend the money or it doesn't. If it does have the right to tax you, then the deliberation about how it is spent belongs in democratic mechanisms and not by people making accusations of "robbery" and "theft".

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Originally posted by KellyJay
The exchange of money from one to another can be no different, since both are done through force the difference is one is not through the rule of law, and one is forced by the power of the government's laws.
Do you think people should not be required by "the government's laws" to pay tax?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Can the Governments giving be called charity or is it something else?
Its not particularly important what we call it. The fact remains that citizens who support government social security are morally superior to citizens who do not.

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Originally posted by FMF
A prostitute sells a service or product. Paying for one is "charity"? You're so intent on being facetious and ostentatiously mean-spirited you just end up sounding daft and unpleasant.
Those Germans who sold their soul to Hitler for a higher standard of living is in better standing than a prostitute in my estimation.

It's the world that is unpleasant. I'm just being real.

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Originally posted by whodey
Those Germans who sold their soul to Hitler for a higher standard of living is in better standing than a prostitute in my estimation.

It's the world that is unpleasant. I'm just being real.
Tell me this. Is the typical "man-on-the-street" trying to feed his family, who takes the Mark of the Beast, in better standing than the "prostitute" who does not?

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Tell me this. Is the typical "man-on-the-street" trying to feed his family, who takes the Mark of the Beast, in better standing than the "prostitute" who does not?
Those that take the mark of the beast will be no different than those Germans selling their collective souls to Hitler.

If you support a regime steeped in genocide then you are an accomplice. You are a participant.

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Originally posted by whodey
If politicians were all that noble, why do they lie like they do? If they were really out to help the middle class and the poor, who outnumber the rich, then all they would have to do is tell the truth all the time to get elected.
Wow, there's your epiphany, and you do not even recognize it as such.

Those who do tell the truth are shouted down by the liars. And this last election cycle the majority believed the liars.

Go figure.

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Originally posted by whodey
Those that take the mark of the beast will be no different than those Germans selling their collective souls to Hitler.

If you support a regime steeped in genocide then you are an accomplice. You are a participant.
That doesn't answer my question in regards to your previous post.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
That doesn't answer my question in regards to your previous post.
My response does answer your question.

The Bible even says that if you take the mark, you will be damned. It agrees with my assertion.

As the scriptures state, those who seek to save their lives will lose it and those who lose it for the kingdoms sake will find it.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Wow, there's your epiphany, and you do not even recognize it as such.

Those who do tell the truth are shouted down by the liars. And this last election cycle the majority believed the liars.

Go figure.
The new members of Congress show that the GOP is not the answer. They have done nothing, literally.

That is because the answers don't like in Congress, nor in the Oval office.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
As if the was a "Christian Left" 🙄

The "Christian Left is the "apostate church", the False Church!
You are ridiculous.

If there was a "Christian Left", I'd be on that side, yes. Have you not read enough of my posts that you could figure that out for yourself?

And how dare you call my faith "apostate". You'd be one of those Jews calling Jesus a "blasphemer".

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