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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]Evil will continue until the heart changes. Only turning to Jesus Christ can accomplish that...When a person turns to Jesus Christ he/she receives a "new" heart.

You're kidding yourself if you believe that Christians are more moral than non-Christians. I've asked a number of Christians if they held that belief and the vast majority have not.[/b]
Sure, people born with a sin nature and having Satan (the god of this world) as their leader either knowingly or not, are more moral than Christians. You are absolutely mad!

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Originally posted by checkbaiter
Sure, people born with a sin nature and having Satan (the god of this world) as their leader either knowingly or not, are more moral than Christians. You are absolutely mad!
Are you claiming that Christians never sin? If not, who is their "leader" when sinning? Jesus? God? Satan?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
If we had not elected so many sissy representatives to government, we would have had protection for our children so this boy would not have to even think about needing to protect himself and his classmates while in school.

P.S. As Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger would say, "They are sissy men."

No, that was girlie men.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzUbtIptqQ
You mean sissy or having morals?

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Gun zealot absurdity:

1. arming elementary school teachers,

2. fighting with your semi-automatic AR-15 against the US military,

3. weird and incoherent analogies between no useful purpose assault weapons versus useful purpose other inanimate objects,

4. preparing for the superstitous end-time prophecies,

5. weird mischaractrerizations of the Constitution,

6. unduly and incorrect very narrow definition of assault weapon,

7. saying that we should only address mental health and not both mental health and reasonable gun control.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Here is your post to which I replied to:

[b]"I'm not at all happy with the idea of kids taking guns to school with the proper bullets in the guns.
Kelly"


My reply was obviously ironic and pointed to you thinking you were being in some way balanced in your position on guns by posting the above comment, which if it wasn't you being serious, would be hilarious.[/b]
Okay, I can see that; however, it did not come across that way when I first
read it. Sorry for getting angry, text isn't always the best place to crack a joke
if you don't make it very plain that is what you are doing.
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Originally posted by galveston75
You mean sissy or having morals?
What do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger meant?

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Originally posted by moon1969
Gun zealot absurdity:

1. arming elementary school teachers,

2. fighting with your semi-automatic AR-15 against the US military,

3. weird and incoherent analogies between no useful purpose assault weapons versus useful purpose other inanimate objects,

4. preparing for the superstitous end-time prophecies,

5. weird mischaractrerizations of ...[text shortened]... that we should only address mental health and not both mental health and reasonable gun control.
Why do you think training and arming teachers, elementry and otherwise is a bad
idea? You like the system now where crazy people can just walk through a school
and pick off kids without someone there that knows how to defend them that is
armed?
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The fervor with which Americans address the topic of gun ownership makes this the perfect forum for it.

Given the special relationship between Israel and the USA, it only makes sense that the USA should implement Israeli-style security measures.

"In Israel, no one carries a weapon without the Israel Ministry of Defense knowing about it. The person carrying the gun or assault weapon has gone through a security background check, trained in the use of gun safety and is registered with either the Israel Defense Forces or the police that he bears a weapon. The right of Americans to bear arms is a US Constitutional right which has not been reformed nor updated since it was written over 200 years ago when Americans were killing turkeys and buffalo to stay alive."

http://www.israelnewsagency.com/newtownconnecticutsandyhookchildrenmassacreisraelschoolsteacherspoliceparentssecuritygunriflesguardscontrolnews48121512.html

This, like most articles I have found on the subject, is infused with a heavy dose of Zionism, but the security recommendations are pragmatic!

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
The fervor with which Americans address the topic of gun ownership makes this the perfect forum for it.

Given the special relationship between Israel and the USA, it only makes sense that the USA should implement Israeli-style security measures.

"In Israel, no one carries a weapon without the Israel Ministry of Defense knowing about it. The perso ...[text shortened]... ject, is infused with a heavy dose of Zionism, but the security recommendations are pragmatic!
Well in Israel everyone joins the Army too, its mandatory if I am not mistaken. With
the amount of people wanting them killed off it is more than likely a safest way to
do things too. Better to be able to defend yourself then get slattered.
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Originally posted by KellyJay
Well in Israel everyone joins the Army too, its mandatory if I am not mistaken. With
the amount of people wanting them killed off it is more than likely a safest way to
do things too. Better to be able to defend yourself then get slattered.
Kelly
The Palestinians are not allowed to have an army. Do you think they should be allowed to have one and that "everyone" (eligible) joining it should be 'mandatory"?

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Originally posted by FMF
The Palestinians are not allowed to have an army. Do you think they should be allowed to have one and that "everyone" (eligible) joining it should be 'mandatory"?
Yes, when they have their own country they get to set their own rules.
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Are you claiming that Christians never sin? If not, who is their "leader" when sinning? Jesus? God? Satan?
You are cleverly avoiding the point of morality. You claim unbelievers are more moral. I never said Christians don't sin. Christians have the ability to repent and change, and ask for forgiveness, unbelievers don't.
Christians have an anchor, Jesus Christ. Unbelievers are like a ship tossed at sea, full of doubt, worries and fear, without God and without Hope. Sad....

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Originally posted by checkbaiter
You are cleverly avoiding the point of morality. You claim unbelievers are more moral. I never said Christians don't sin. Christians have the ability to repent and change, and ask for forgiveness, unbelievers don't.
Christians have an anchor, Jesus Christ. Unbelievers are like a ship tossed at sea, full of doubt, worries and fear, without God and without Hope. Sad....
would you say predominantly atheist countries such as sweden behave in a less moral fashion than mainly christian countries such as the u.s.?

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
would you say predominantly atheist countries such as sweden behave in a less moral fashion than mainly christian countries such as the u.s.?
Probably....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372

http://www.thelocal.se/44408/20121114/#.UNcaTOQ1kqM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden

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Originally posted by checkbaiter
Probably....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372

http://www.thelocal.se/44408/20121114/#.UNcaTOQ1kqM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden
Yeah, not so much...

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201103/misinformation-and-facts-about-secularism-and-religion

http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zuckerman/Zuckerman_on_Atheism.pdf

http://secularist10.hubpages.com/hub/Religion-Atheism-and-Crime

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