Hebrews 1:8

"But of the Son, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, ..." (Hebrews 1:8)

Let us take a look at the original language of this verse

ho thronos sou ho theos eis ton aiona tou aionos, which reads literally as,
the throne of you oh God, to the age of the age.

http://interlinearbible.org/hebrews/1-8.htm

You will notice dear reader that in the Greek text there is no verb [is] and its up to the translator to supply the verb when translating in English, for English is not Greek and it must be made grammatically correct in the language to which it is being rendered. The problem for the translator is where to put the implied verb [is]

Now let us take a look at the sentence, 'the throne of you', means 'your throne', 'the god' is the New testaments way of saying God, for it contains the definite article, 'the'. 'to the age of the age', is a typical way of saying forever and ever. Now the question is, where does the implied verb [is] go to make it all come together.

In English we know exactly where to place a verb, it comes between the subject and the object of the verb or in sentences that use the verb 'to be', between the subject and the predicate noun or predicate adjective or some other predicate modifier. The question of Hebrews is what is the subject? Subject nouns in Greek are usually in the nominative case, but when the verb 'to be', is used other nouns in the sentence can also be in the nominative state.

In Hebrews 1:8 we have two nouns in the nominative form, 'throne', and 'God'. The verb therefore belongs between these two nouns as it does in dozens of other cases. That being the case, the text should read, 'your throne is God, forever and ever'. Thus the New world translation accurately depicts the verse as,

(Hebrews 1:8) But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever and ever. . . .'

The New revised standard version and the Today's English version also recognise this as a valid translation in footnotes to the verse in their editions.

Now the question dear reader, why have the translators cited by the trinitarians ignored this grammatically simple and correct treatment and translated the verse to make it appear the Christ is God? By now you have no need of me telling you dear reader, RELIGIOUS BIAS. Another sly attempt to usurp the pure and undefiled word of God by introducing a doctrine not explicitly stated in the text. At least this time their deception relies upon the placement of the implied verb rather than blatantly adding words, never the less, its plain for all to see, why they have done so. Lets see if it takes them as long not to admit it again.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
"But of the Son, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, ..." (Hebrews 1:8)

Let us take a look at the original language of this verse

ho thronos sou ho theos eis ton aiona tou aionos, which reads literally as,
the throne of you oh God, to the age of the age.

http://interlinearbible.org/hebrews/1-8.htm

You will notice dear reader that ...[text shortened]... have done so. Lets see if it takes them as long not to admit it again.

Still waiting.....

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
"But of the Son, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, ..." (Hebrews 1:8)

Let us take a look at the original language of this verse

ho thronos sou ho theos eis ton aiona tou aionos, which reads literally as,
the throne of you oh God, to the age of the age.

http://interlinearbible.org/hebrews/1-8.htm

You will notice dear reader that have done so. Lets see if it takes them as long not to admit it again.

Originally posted by galveston75
I'll wait right here with you Robbie... 🙂

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
"But of the Son, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, ..." (Hebrews 1:8)

Let us take a look at the original language of this verse

ho thronos sou ho theos eis ton aiona tou aionos, which reads literally as,
the throne of you oh God, to the age of the age.

http://interlinearbible.org/hebrews/1-8.htm

You will notice dear reader that ...[text shortened]... have done so. Lets see if it takes them as long not to admit it again.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
This song is dedicated to robbie and galvie and the special bond they share. 😀

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Originally posted by black beetle
Hey Robbie,

The monks at Agion Oros consider that Psalm 45 7,8 and Hebr. 1:8 have the same meaning (and they are aware of the fact that the Psalm was not written for the Son but for the kings of Israel, and it was properly used during the ceremony of their marriage).
According to them, 1:8 is taken from the Psalm and goes simply: “ …he told the Son ...[text shortened]... s accurate due to the fact that "o theos" is of course a vocative case and not nominative;
😵

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its incredibly interesting dear Beetle, our understanding is of course that the King of Israel is being addressed in the Psalm (45:6.7) as they are said to sit on Jehovahs throne (merely being a representative of a higher power), prophetically and doctrinally we have no problem with the verse being addressed to the son, for the son of-course likewise ...[text shortened]... founded upon God, the immovable Rock.’” -The Epistle to the Hebrews (London, 1889), pp. 25, 26.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
"But of the Son, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, ..." (Hebrews 1:8)

Let us take a look at the original language of this verse

ho thronos sou ho theos eis ton aiona tou aionos, which reads literally as,
the throne of you oh God, to the age of the age.

http://interlinearbible.org/hebrews/1-8.htm

You will notice dear reader that ...[text shortened]... have done so. Lets see if it takes them as long not to admit it again.

Originally posted by josephw
You've been duped again robbie, and there's no point in debating the issue with you since changing your mind is next to impossible.

How is it that every translation I have to hand, a dozen at least, contradicts everything you're saying? And the Greek text you're using must be the one you got from the Watchtower no doubt.

Originally posted by black beetle
I know, but the monks follow St Ioannis Chrysostomos' exegesis instead Westcott's; since the Son is understood by them as being higher than the angels, the vocative makes to them sense, and at the same time this rendering is accurate😵

Though Robbie will no doubt speak of grand conspiracy of bias, these many and varied translators supply this array of renderings of Hebrews 1:8:

Bible > Hebrews > Chapter 1 > Verse 8
◄ Hebrews 1:8 ►

New International Version (©2011)
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

New Living Translation (©2007)
But to the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.

International Standard Version (©2012)
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a righteous scepter.

NET Bible (©2006)
but of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But concerning The Son, he said, “Your throne, oh God, is to the eternity of eternities. A straight scepter is the scepter of your Kingdom.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
But God said about his Son, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But unto the Son he says, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.

American King James Version
But to the Son he said, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.

American Standard Version
but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Darby Bible Translation
but as to the Son, Thy throne, O God, is to the age of the age, and a sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

English Revised Version
but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Webster's Bible Translation
But to the Son, he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.

Weymouth New Testament
But of His Son, He says, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and for ever, and the sceptre of Thy Kingdom is a sceptre of absolute justice.

World English Bible
But of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your Kingdom.

Young's Literal Translation
and unto the Son: 'Thy throne, O God, is to the age of the age; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy reign;

Originally posted by sonship
Though Robbie will no doubt speak of grand conspiracy of bias, these many and varied translators supply this array of renderings of Hebrews 1:8:

Bible > Hebrews > Chapter 1 > Verse 8


◄ Hebrews 1:8 ►





New International Version (©2011)
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ev e age of the age; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy reign;

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have provided reasons, both grammatically and doctrinally, you do what you can only do, cite lots of biased translations in support of your paganism, which is fine by me because its a weak and beggarly argument, a logical fallacy for sure, 'everyone translates it this way, therefore it must be the true translation', a nonsense. All you need to do ...[text shortened]... Jaywill, but it will be ok, we shall expose religious bias wherever we find it, so feel easy.