14 Mar 05
Originally posted by vistesd
Now I'm just calling you a liar. Period.
Vistesd, thank you for your considered first post. It was very interesting and thought-provoking. Unfortunately, you provoked our good fundamentalist friend who is incapable of seeing beyond his pastor-provided cheat sheet of "How to deal with criticism."
Many of us are delighted to have a good debate and don't end up in the gutter quite so quickly as Darfius as when he is feeling upset. The thing that seems to upset him the most is when a Christian thinks about his/her belief. He doesn't seem to be too keen on intellectualizing faith.
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by MaustrauserBah, it's simpler than that, darfius has an over-inflated ego.
Vistesd, thank you for your considered first post. It was very interesting and thought-provoking. Unfortunately, you provoked our good fundamentalist friend who is incapable of seeing beyond his pastor-provided cheat sheet of "How to deal with criticism."
Many of us are delighted to have a good debate and don't end up in the gutter quite so q ...[text shortened]... istian thinks about his/her belief. He doesn't seem to be too keen on intellectualizing faith.
It's not that he's always right, but that he "knows" that "our" intentions are false, and so should be treated as the serpent's.
It's not that he cant handle criticism, but that he will not countenance alterations to the lord's word, for which HE is the mouthpiece to the ungodly.
Pride is the first sin from which all others flow (I've got that bit right, yes?), so it is with darfius. Worse than the fact that he is full of pride, is the fact that he has a flawed idea of what pride is (or I assume that from the complete lack of humility apparent in his faith).
I'd advise him to speak to his priest about his pride, but as I'm a "serpent" I think it's unlikely he'd heed my advise...for that matter I'd teach him myself, but I doubt my methods would help him any.
MÅ¥HÅRM
14 Mar 05
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Originally posted by MaustrauserThank you, Henry.
Vistesd, thank you for your considered first post. It was very interesting and thought-provoking. Unfortunately, you provoked our good fundamentalist friend who is incapable of seeing beyond his pastor-provided cheat sheet of "How ...[text shortened]... lief. He doesn't seem to be too keen on intellectualizing faith.
But now I have to go out and fulfull my newly appointed (anointed?) role as a "false prophet," and whisper in the ears of "baby Christians" in order to totally disillusion them from the truth. You know, I never really considered that kind of career before....🙄
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by MaustrauserI don't have a pastor. I'm sorry, where was the debate? He was simply giving his opinion that Jesus Christ died for no reason and I was giving fact back to him. I really don't understand why you think I don't encourage Christians to think about their belief. However, I do not encourage them to waste time on lies.
Vistesd, thank you for your considered first post. It was very interesting and thought-provoking. Unfortunately, you provoked our good fundamentalist friend who is incapable of seeing beyond his pastor-provided cheat sheet of "How to deal with criticism."
Many of us are delighted to have a good debate and don't end up in the gutter quite so q ...[text shortened]... istian thinks about his/her belief. He doesn't seem to be too keen on intellectualizing faith.
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by MayharmAm I really that proud? I've apologized everytime I was wrong here. There's a difference between humility and a lack of self esteem.
Bah, it's simpler than that, darfius has an over-inflated ego.
It's not that he's always right, but that he "knows" that "our" intentions are false, and so should be treated as the serpent's.
It's not that he cant handle criticism, but that he will not countenance alterations to the lord's word, for which HE is the mouthpiece to the ungodly. ...[text shortened]... e...for that matter I'd teach him myself, but I doubt my methods would help him any.
MÅ¥HÅRM
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by vistesdIs this where people are supposed to think I'm crazy? Another nice tactic from Satan, vist, I'm impressed. You're a star pupil.
Thank you, Henry.
But now I have to go out and fulfull my newly appointed (anointed?) role as a "false prophet," and whisper in the ears of "baby Christians" in order to totally disillusion them from the truth. You know, I never really considered that kind of career before....🙄
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusMaybe if you forgot as well as 'forgave,' you might be viewed as being more humble. This is what you told me in the 'memory in heaven' thread: That's the 2nd apology you owe me. And yes, I do keep track of that. Though I forgive you beforehand on each account.
Am I really that proud? I've apologized everytime I was wrong here. There's a difference between humility and a lack of self esteem.
"Keeping track" of real or perceived slights is not what I envision a person who takes Christ as his example doing.
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by Darfius"Am I really that proud?"
Am I really that proud? I've apologized everytime I was wrong here. There's a difference between humility and a lack of self esteem.
Yes, you are.
"I've apologized everytime I was wrong here."
By definition, something you've apologised for cannot be something you're proud of. I am therefore, by definition, talking about what you haven't apologised for, or more precisely, for what you are unapologetic about.
" There's a difference between humility and a lack of self esteem."
There's a difference between respect in others eyes and your own, yes.
What has that got to do with anything?
MÅ¥HÅRM
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by MayharmYour opinion means very little to me. You seem to confuse unwavering loyalty to God for pride. Which is your own error, not mine.
[b]"Am I really that proud?"
Yes, you are.
"I've apologized everytime I was wrong here."
By definition, something you've apologised for cannot be something you're proud of. I am therefore, by definition, talking about what you haven't apologised for, or more precisely, for what you are unapologetic about.
"[/b ...[text shortened]... n respect in others eyes and your own, yes.
What has that got to do with anything?
MÅ¥HÅRM
14 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusBTW, Are you a "baby Christian," darfius? Can you hear me whispering? "Dis-illiusioning those who seek the truth?" (whisper-whisper-whisper)
Your opinion means very little to me. You seem to confuse unwavering loyalty to God for pride. Which is your own error, not mine.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusWhy don't you have a pastor? This is shocking to me.
I don't have a pastor. I'm sorry, where was the debate? He was simply giving his opinion that Jesus Christ died for no reason and I was giving fact back to him. I really don't understand why you think I don't encourage Christians to think about their belief. However, I do not encourage them to waste time on lies.