How can YEC's ignore ALL the data of old Earth?

Originally posted by sonhouse
How does a troll sound? Do you have to hit it with a klammer?

I find hitting them very hard with a Klammer while singing row row row
your boat backwards produces a very pleasant sound from trolls. 🙂
Kelly

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are the one that is talking out your ass, since it is located closer to your brain.

That doesn't follow at all. I see a problem with your hypothesis. Yes, it helps if the brain is closely located to perceptional organs, like eyes and ears, but the brain doesn't necessarily have to be close to your speaking orifice. So, even if his brain were located close to his ass, that still doesn't mean he can automatically all of a sudden speak out of his ass. Also, were his brain close to his ass that would disprove evolution, as in where would that fit within the evolutionary tree? We know evolution is true, so...

...you fail, dude.

Originally posted by C Hess
That doesn't follow at all. I see a problem with your hypothesis. Yes, it helps if the brain is closely located to perceptional organs, like eyes and ears, but the brain doesn't necessarily have to be close to your speaking orifice. So, even if his brain were located close to his ass, that still doesn't mean he can automatically all of a sudden speak out of h ...[text shortened]... ld that fit within the evolutionary tree? We know evolution is true, so...

...you fail, dude.

Can you explain the evolution of scissors, fork, knife, pliers, wrench, and spoon?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Can you explain the evolution of scissors, fork, knife, pliers, wrench, and spoon?

yes.
but that is not biological evolution is it?

all of those devices you quoted had an antecedent.
rather emphasises evolution.
😀

Originally posted by RJHinds
Can you explain the evolution of scissors, fork, knife, pliers, wrench, and spoon?

Sure I can. They had intelligent designers.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
yes.
but that is not biological evolution is it?

all of those devices you quoted had an antecedent.
rather emphasises evolution.
😀

Okay, start explaining it. I don't thaink it will take you long to see that a little intelligence was necessary for designing those simple tools. If that is so, then it should not take a genius to understand that more complex things require higher intelligence for their design.

Living things ate the most complex things we know of and if a television, airplane, and computer require an intelligent being to design and make them, then it is reasonable to believe a more intelligent being must have designed living things.

Originally posted by C Hess
Sure I can. They had intelligent designers.

Then why is it not reasonable to believe that the much more complex living things that we can not design and make must have been designed by much more intelligent designers?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Then why is it not reasonable to believe that the much more complex living things that we can not design and make must have been designed by much more intelligent designers?

Then answer me this: Who made this intelligent designer? If you can answer that one, maybe we can talk. It has always been there is not an answer. If we are designed, IT was designed also by something even more intelligent that IT.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Then why is it not reasonable to believe that the much more complex living things that we can not design and make must have been designed by much more intelligent designers?

Think about it. Anyone can make a complex design through trial and error. It takes a real intellect to create a simple design that is not wasteful of resources and energy. The human body most certainly isn't simplistic, and it wastes a lot of resources and energy. Also, the examples of designed objects you mentioned were all created to be useful to the designer, and others of the designers kind. How is the human body useful to your god?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Then answer me this: Who made this intelligent designer? If you can answer that one, maybe we can talk. It has always been there is not an answer. If we are designed, IT was designed also by something even more intelligent that IT.

God doesn't tell us everything. Knowledge of HIS Creator is above our pay grade. Meaning we don't "need to know".

Originally posted by RJHinds
Okay, start explaining it. I don't thaink it will take you long to see that a little intelligence was necessary for designing those simple tools. If that is so, then it should not take a genius to understand that more complex things require higher intelligence for their design.

Living things ate the most complex things we know of and if a television, ai ...[text shortened]... hem, then it is reasonable to believe a more intelligent being must have designed living things.

I don't think the development of scissors is much of an analogy for
human evolution. Scissors do not reproduce. (At least not in my home)

Why not take something living as comparison?
Bacteria? A virus? Fruit flies?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Then answer me this: Who made this intelligent designer? If you can answer that one, maybe we can talk. It has always been there is not an answer. If we are designed, IT was designed also by something even more intelligent that IT.

We can never talk until you become rational about this subject and except that at some point we must accept the word of the creator God.

Originally posted by C Hess
Think about it. Anyone can make a complex design through trial and error. It takes a real intellect to create a simple design that is not wasteful of resources and energy. The human body most certainly isn't simplistic, and it wastes a lot of resources and energy. Also, the examples of designed objects you mentioned were all created to be useful to the designer, and others of the designers kind. How is the human body useful to your god?

I have thought about it, and I do not know of any human that has designed a machine that is as efficient as the creatures that God has made.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
I don't think the development of scissors is much of an analogy for
human evolution. Scissors do not reproduce. (At least not in my home)

Why not take something living as comparison?
Bacteria? A virus? Fruit flies?

I was trying to make it as simple as possible for your simple mind. I did not take anything that can reproduce itself, because man has never made those things. The best man has done in that respect is to make machines that can make copies of other things. But the point is only to show you that even those things require an intelligent being to design them. So why is it not logical to believe that living things, that have within them DNA information programming code like a computer, are not also designed for a purpose?