How to tell the Earth's Age

Originally posted by sonhouse
I think we have been down that useless road before. Spare me your bullshyte.

Have you read the New Testament or have you got stuck in the Old Testament?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Have you read the New Testament or have you got stuck in the Old Testament?

C'mon, you do know I went K-8 at a Lutheran church/school don't you? What do you think? We got it all including the Catechism. I just opted out of the whole man made deal, that's all.

Originally posted by sonhouse
C'mon, you do know I went K-8 at a Lutheran church/school don't you? What do you think? We got it all including the Catechism. I just opted out of the whole man made deal, that's all.

Apparently you opted out of the God made deal too. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
How to tell the Earth's Age

There are many ways that we know the earth is only a few thousand years old. We can use science as well as the Holy Bible to determine the age of the earth. The following video discusses these facts.

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God created the earth to be old just like he created Adam as a man and not as a baby

Originally posted by RBHILL
God created the earth to be old just like he created Adam as a man and not as a baby

Why would this nutzoid deity do that? To make it look old, it would have had to had an internally consistent history, like placing every photon from what would appear to be tens of light years to billions of light years in their proper place and hitting the play button.

Maybe you think 'a god can do anything' but don't you think it would want to be just a bit more efficient about it?

Like starting the universe when we think it was started, for instance, so it wouldn't have to keep track of every quark, electron, photon, gravity wave, temperature variation of the remnant of the big bang we call the cosmic background radiation, hitting us from all sides at that 2.7 degree stuff that got some Nobel prizes for, making all the temperature variations just so, so that when we sussed that part out, we were able to measure the temperature differences to an accuracy of better than one part in a million.
The thing that is odd about the hypothesis is this:

For all the thousands of years gone by since you think its all 6K years old, who would this deity have been trying to fool? If it was not worried about some intelligent being figuring it all out why do it that way? I'm just trying to point out problems with the man made religion you have yourself stuck into.

So, thousands of years go by and the photons all stream in and such and photons were placed just so, we can think we are looking at a galaxy a billion light years away, come to the conclusion the light there started out a billion years ago, but why would it be set up in such a way as to just fool US?

None of those unsophisticated ancestors of ours would have had a clue to actually call any of that into reason so it would be clear the target of such deception would have to have been aimed at us in the 20th and 21st century.

So in order to believe that one has to think humanity so high on some kind of pedestal this god had to make sure we stayed good and fooled. Why would that be do you suppose?

One explanation, the original writers had to make a god that looked like humans and so gave this god attributes that seemed we could identify with, including the idea a deity would want to spend time directing our warfare and so forth.

Like humans trying to direct the efforts of an ant colony they put in a glass tank.

So you have to assume humans are so valuable as to be worth the trouble of a deity to go to all that trouble just to fool US.

Can you see any problems with that story plot?

Originally posted by RBHILL
God created the earth to be old just like he created Adam as a man and not as a baby

Adam was not created an old man, but a young man. Just because God did not create Adam as a baby does not mean Adam had to be old.

The earth was created by God to be inhabited by man, but that does not mean the earth had to be old anymore than the man had to be old.

Isaiah 45:18
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

One could consider an age of 6,000 years as old too, but not compared to 4 billion years.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Why would this nutzoid deity do that? To make it look old, it would have had to had an internally consistent history, like placing every photon from what would appear to be tens of light years to billions of light years in their proper place and hitting the play button.

Maybe you think 'a god can do anything' but don't you think it would want to be just ...[text shortened]... ity to go to all that trouble just to fool US.

Can you see any problems with that story plot?

God has told us by revelation what He did and how long ago, so you don't have to be fooled unless you want to be fooled. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
God has told us by revelation what He did and how long ago, so you don't have to be fooled unless you want to be fooled. 😏

Er, only MEN have said how old things are not your nutzoid man made worthless god.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Er, only MEN have said how old things are not your nutzoid man made worthless god.

God inspired men to write it down so that we can figure it out. 😏

Originally posted by sonhouse
Why would this nutzoid deity do that? To make it look old, it would have had to had an internally consistent history, like placing every photon from what would appear to be tens of light years to billions of light years in their proper place and hitting the play button.

Maybe you think 'a god can do anything' but don't you think it would want to be just ...[text shortened]... ity to go to all that trouble just to fool US.

Can you see any problems with that story plot?

Have a look at The Pastors video on starlight.
That will explain everything to you.

Originally posted by RJHinds
God has told us by revelation what He did and how long ago, so you don't have to be fooled unless you want to be fooled. 😏

You don't have to be another "ancient man" with no knowledge of science, either.

Genesis says nothing about how long ago Genesis 1 was. Only the time since Adam is recorded in the Bible, and that much was for ancient man who could not comprehend science. We've grown up a little since then. Anyone who is not brain dead can now see how it all fits together into a 13.8 billion year old universe. You just refuse to be educated. God's purpose for us doesn't include staying in the ignorant past.

Originally posted by Captain Strange
Have a look at The Pastors video on starlight.
That will explain everything to you.

If you get your science from videos like that, you are as ignorant as Hinds.

Originally posted by RJHinds
God has told us by revelation what He did and how long ago, so you don't have to be fooled unless you want to be fooled. 😏

That cuts both ways though. One can be fooled into believing something is false when it is true because one wants it to be false, but, by the same token, one can also be fooled into believing that something is true when it is in fact false. This presents a problem with all your "literal truth of the Bible proved by science" threads. The science isn't very good and you are demonstrating a complete lack of skepticism regarding it. Words like confirmation bias come to mind. Basically what I'm getting at is that you are showing all the signs of someone who believes something that is false but wants to believe it and is fooling themselves.

Originally posted by DeepThought
That cuts both ways though. One can be fooled into believing something is false when it is true because one wants it to be false, but, by the same token, one can also be fooled into believing that something is true when it is in fact false. This presents a problem with all your "literal truth of the Bible proved by science" threads. The science isn't ...[text shortened]... someone who believes something that is false but wants to believe it and is fooling themselves.

The way I see it, the atheists and evilutionists are the ones that believe something that is false, but want to believe that it is true and as a result are fooling themselves. 😏

Originally posted by Suzianne
You don't have to be another "ancient man" with no knowledge of science, either.

Genesis says nothing about how long ago Genesis 1 was. Only the time since Adam is recorded in the Bible, and that much was for ancient man who could not comprehend science. We've grown up a little since then. Anyone who is not brain dead can now see how it all fit just refuse to be educated. God's purpose for us doesn't include staying in the ignorant past.[/b]

Originally posted by Suzianne
"Genesis says nothing about how long ago Genesis 1 was."
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Correct.