Originally posted by robbie carrobiePerhaps you can demonstrate to us the idea of the electromagnetic spectrum from scripture. Or binary math. Or DNA.
I see, so you bolted it on to your faith, interesting, one wonders what else bolt ons you may have added.
Show me where any of these are detailed in scripture.
And yet they undeniably exist.
I have to say to you what I say to RJHinds on occasion: Stop it. You're giving the rest of us a bad name.
Originally posted by Proper KnobIt occurred by having been taught thourgh the schools he attended in the same way you have been indoctrinated and don't realize it. 😏
I find hilarious this idea of yours that Dr Collins has somehow been 'indoctrinated'. Can you elaborate on how you believe this occurred?
The Instructor
Originally posted by SuzianneYou should stop it and open your mind and the Holy Bible and look and listen to the truth revealed by the Holy Spirit. Perhaps you are the one giving Christianity a bad name, because you do not believe in the literal word of God on the creation of the universe. You try to compromise the truth of scripture with the word of evil-lutionists.
Perhaps you can demonstrate to us the idea of the electromagnetic spectrum from scripture. Or binary math. Or DNA.
Show me where any of these are detailed in scripture.
And yet they undeniably exist.
I have to say to you what I say to RJHinds on occasion: Stop it. You're giving the rest of us a bad name.
Originally posted by RJHindsNo one taught me about evolution in schools, not as far as remember anyhow, I decided to learn about the subject myself and read a few books on the topic. So unless you can explain how someone can indoctrinate themselves i'm afraid you've failed on this one.
It occurred by having been taught thourgh the schools he attended in the same way you have been indoctrinated and don't realize it. 😏
The Instructor
Originally posted by Proper KnobYou became indoctrinated by the opinions of those that wrote the books. That is not much different from being taught in school because the teachers probably used the same books to do the indoctrination. 😏
No one taught me about evolution in schools, not as far as remember anyhow, I decided to learn about the subject myself and read a few books on the topic. So unless you can explain how someone can indoctrinate themselves i'm afraid you've failed on this one.
The Instructor
Originally posted by Proper KnobI think it means to teach propaganda as truth over and over and over until it is believed. Examples are communist indoctrination of their people with communist propaganda or the propaganda the Vietcong tried to indoctrinate Americans with and probably themselves.
Do you know what 'indoctrinate' means?
Originally posted by RJHindsYou missed out religion!
I think it means to teach propaganda as truth over and over and over until it is believed. Examples are communist indoctrination of their people with communist propaganda or the propaganda the Vietcong tried to indoctrinate Americans with and probably themselves.
I used to for scientific reasons specially during high school and even when I first became a Christian believed that God created the universe and earth via evolutionary process but I have in later years slowly changed my views for many reasons. I also believed it was possible that the 6 days of genesis could have been ages and not literal days but even on that I'm not so sure anymore. I think that the truth is there it is just a matter of figuring it out. I don't think God is deceptive so figuring it out is there.
Manny
Originally posted by RJHindsFrom wiki -
I think it means to teach propaganda as truth over and over and over until it is believed. Examples are communist indoctrination of their people with communist propaganda or the propaganda the Vietcong tried to indoctrinate Americans with and probably themselves.
Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine). It is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned.
How you think Dr Collins can become as eminent a scientist as he is without questioning or critically examining other scientists work is beyond the realms of fantasy.
Originally posted by Proper KnobI didn't say he did not question some other scientists work. But it is logical to believe that other scientist know what they are talking about when you are learning. It is not prudent to to question accepted expert in their field today if one wishes to be taken seriously and eventual become an eminent scientist himself. Once that initial phase is over and one is doing their own research they are too busy to worry about other ares of scientific research.
From wiki -
Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine). It is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned.
How you think Dr Collins ca ...[text shortened]... thout questioning or critically examining other scientists work is beyond the realms of fantasy.
But do to his own research and the resulting conclusion he reached from it, he could no long reject the evidence that proved the existence of an intelligent designer and creator of humans; and the only candidate for that intelligent programmer of the human DNA that made sense, obvious, is the Christian God of the Holy Bible. That was the reason he says he is a Christian now.
Below are links to two video on youtube that I suggest you look at to help you understand why Bill Gates said the following:
“DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created.”
The Road Ahead by Bill Gates, 1995
How did the DNA code originate?
More DNA Evidence for Special Creation
Originally posted by RJHindsdidn't say he did not question some other scientists work.
I didn't say he did not question some other scientists work. But it is logical to believe that other scientist know what they are talking about when you are learning. It is not prudent to to question accepted expert in their field today if one wishes to be taken seriously and eventual become an eminent scientist himself. Once that initial phase is over an ...[text shortened]... RWb52ww
More DNA Evidence for Special Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2-gwcgX4t0
That's what indoctrinate means. Good God, this is worse than being kicked in the knackers. As for the rest of the drivel you posted, I have no idea what you're talking about, and I certainly won't be wasting by time watching those dung heap YouTube links.