01 Mar 11
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Originally posted by divegeesterlol. If you ever wonder why so many have so little regard for fundamentalist Christians, look in the mirror. One would think at least one of you guys would be willing and able to engage in a rational discussion. Clearly you are neither.
It's self evident.
02 Mar 11
Originally posted by souvereinIt is not my belief but the absolute truth.
That is YOUR belief. not MINE. Can you accept that?
If I departed from this earth today....it will still be the absolute truth.....it doesn't depend on me believing or not believing.
You may reject, and reject you do well......but one thing you cannot say is, that it is not the truth.
For you to say it is not the truth, would be like me saying, the earth does not spin.
02 Mar 11
Originally posted by FMFYour statements that it is not this, or it is not that ......is simply baseless and meaningless, for a person who does not know what to do, or what not to do you have no say on the matter.
There are numerous so-called "authorities". All they are are codified and internalized traditions of conjecture. This is not affected by the certainty or sincerity you feel. Accepting this diversity in the matter of spirituality is surely a prerequisite for any meaningful communication in a community founded on diversity of perceptions.
[b]The goal is .....to ...[text shortened]... ther place to go" to find what people believe is an "authority" on the supernatural.
Its like a person being born completely blind, trying to be an art critic........what could they possibly say about art, that would be meaningful.
02 Mar 11
Originally posted by DasaWell, I can say that, while I believe that you are completely sincere in your beliefs, I am not a subscriber to your belief system, and so your assertions really don't mean anything to me or to anyone else, whether they cite their chosen "authority" or they don't cite their chosen "authority". Comparing me to a "blind" person really acts only as an indicator of the intensity of your earnestness and doesn't really pertain to any objective "truth" about me at all. It's also interesting that you compare a belief system to "art". Do you think that a piece of "art" must only be perceived and interpreted in one single definitive way?
Its like a person being born completely blind, trying to be an art critic........what could they possibly say about art, that would be meaningful.
02 Mar 11
Originally posted by DasaI stated that there is clearly diversity in the matter of spirituality. How can such a statement be "simply baseless and meaningless"?
Your statements that it is not this, or it is not that ......is simply baseless and meaningless,..
...for a person who does not know what to do, or what not to do you have no say on the matter.
How on Earth can I have "no say on the matter" of my own spirituality and on the fact that I don't acknowledge or submit to your chosen belief system?
02 Mar 11
Originally posted by DasaFor you to say it is not the truth, would be like me saying, the earth does not spin.
It is not my belief but the absolute truth.
If I departed from this earth today....it will still be the absolute truth.....it doesn't depend on me believing or not believing.
You may reject, and reject you do well......but one thing you cannot say is, that it is not the truth.
For you to say it is not the truth, would be like me saying, the earth does not spin.
The rotation of the earth is a scientific fact. There are many ways we can prove this rotation. That is why we all agree on it.
Your claim that Vedanta contains the absolute truth is based on your personal experiences and your interpretation and explanation. The fundamental disagreements among Vedantists themselves about god shows already how subjective that is.